- 02-06-13, 05:36 PM #26
- 02-06-13, 05:56 PM #28
- 02-06-13, 06:44 PM #29
- 02-07-13, 10:29 AM #30
Google is now impossible to use in my PB browser, first because the input box blanks out when the home page fully loads (you can see it while the page is loading), and I am unable to sign in to Google at all -- when I enter my email address and password, up pops a message saying 'type mismatch".
But apart from such general unuseability, it's a great browser.
Edit to add: Tried again this morning, after a reboot, with the PB in the same room as the router. Got the Holland America website to work but had to turn off flash and java to get any kind of useable speed out of it. Norwegian site works alright. Google still doesn't work. Had to use Bing.
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- 02-07-13, 10:47 AM #31
If it's been repeated, I've gone for my once-in-a-blue-moon reboot, and I can't think of a case where that hasn't fixed it.
Doesn't happen to me very often, because I don't reboot it often at all.
- 02-07-13, 10:51 AM #32
- 02-07-13, 11:33 AM #34
That was good, very very good!
The thing is, before we get anywhere near that level of business acumen, RIM need to know two vital things.
1. A company is only as good as it's workforce.
2. A happy customer is a satisfied customer.
The first knee **** reaction of any fundamentally badly managed company when faced with cost cutting, sorry the modern word is 'down sizing', is to cut staff. The result is immediate but it's a bit like signing your own death warrant. I think this might just be reflected in RIM's share price and the fact that the last ditched attempt at saving the company from the sharks, BB10 is honestly not what we all here expected and it's certainly not wowing any of the tech review sites out there.
We have all waited for this for so long that we actually convinced ourselves that it would be brilliant.
Pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
Look after your staff (the good ones)!
Keep your customer base happy!
Employ a strong CEO that has his own direction and will not be swayed by pressure from shareholders
I always thought (forgive my age) that Heins was a famous guitar player?
- 02-07-13, 11:49 AM #35
Sad, one must bear in mind that most reviewers have no idea what they're handling. Remember for instance an early knock on the PlayBook was its small power button. Well, the power button rarely needs to be used. This was at odds with the iPad paradigm so it must be a bad thing. There are still folks who lament over a long boot time for the device despite the fact that it never needs to be powered down except perhaps for long storage periods. My point is that no doubt the old paradigms about phone operation still hold sway so some reviewers still don't comprehend the advantages of the BB10 OS. On one thread here, a guy coming from another device complained about gesture inputs and felt the back button is better. Of course, those familiar with the PlayBook UI love the swiping and consider the back button to be quaint.
BB has a tough row to hoe but they're off to a very good start.
- 02-07-13, 12:32 PM #36
Since I'd first learned that the BB10 phones had 2GB RAM, I've always believed that the PB's 1GB RAM would prove an insurmountable obstacle in bringing BB10 to PB.
Like you, my immediate thought on reading the Crackberry Kevin editorial was that we were being softened-up for "bad news" about BB10 on PB. The ground is already being prepared for us to accept some kind of BB10-lite OS for PB, and it's being presented as a "good thing" because the full BB10 experience would be be too disappointing for us PB owners and no responsible company would want to inflict that ordeal on us long-suffering PB'er.
Near brings a tear to my eye does this display of thoughtfulness.
- 02-07-13, 12:45 PM #37"1GB of RAM isn't enough to run BlackBerry 10 smoothly"
What I'd want :
1/ A refreshed UI with the look and feel of BB10
2/ A more competitive browser (HTML5 compliance) <= this may hurt ...
3/ Full BB10 apps compatibility (provided these apps do not use phone specific features).
4/ BBID merge capability (2 devices = 1 account)
5/ An enhanced bridge
What I can live with :
1/ Limitation of simultaneous running apps to - say - 4 (1/2 concurrent apps for 1/2 memory; cheap count)
2/ Hub as an "on demand" app and not as a "always rised" system process.
I believe this can be done for current PB versions (and I must say I was pretty convinced - I was told wrong and acknowledge that - we would have see that at BBJAM).
Then, the full monty for next versions (doesn't have to be a new product, 'just' more RAM and a boosted proc).
- CrackBerry User
02-07-13, 05:20 PM #38
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After that ... if they get over this hurdle and their stock price and market share rise ... then it would be less risky to build on the PB knowledge and experience. In the interim, I would like to see BBRY license the OS to hardware manufacturers to build devices greater than 7". (i.e. not a mobile phone that would compete against BlackBerry's Z and Q). I'm guessing this will be a can of worms in itself, but its one way of staying in the market race and reduce their risk. If BlackBerry stayed out of the tablet hardware market for 3 years ... giving the independents a chance to recoup their costs and investments, it would also enable BBRY to re-enter the tablet market later. As a user, it offers me choice.
The tablet market is very risky for BBRY. Global corporations are watching this space. For them its a cost to provide and support a phone, a laptop and then a tablet. The successful integration of tablet and laptop is one idea actively pursued by many. The alternative is phone + tablet + desktop. But the tablet has to be better than the current crop (iPad included) before Corporations will include it. Once Corporations make a decision, market will be huge (even if you allow BYOD). But the ecosystem for a corporate market is different from the consumer market. Corporations want to reduce choice.
- 02-07-13, 11:23 PM #40
s_o_m: A satisfied customer is a happy customer. Sometimes a tree can be greatly improved by pruning the dead and weak limbs. But do agree you need to keep the good ones and manage well with strong incentives. Pâté de foie gras no - maybe a salmon terrine. Sorry decided to quit the booze for health reasons so will just have black coffee. Maybe since I am in the colonies and you apparently in the motherland and my Learjet is in the shop I better just tender my regrets and will not be at your binge.
- 02-07-13, 11:44 PM #41
In fact, as opposed to what other is saying that it don't need 2GB RAM for a device to run BB10 smoothly like our beloved PlayBook, why would you think that great guy like Kevin would mentioned that if it doesn't concerned the PB at all? (and the subject is btw all about PB upgrading to BB10)... and later this year would be enough time for BlackBerry to produce new PB with better hardware specs and then simply announce the discontinue of the current PB but offer a better one with a promise that it will have a more mobile computing and users' experiences i.e. if they still want to continue with the tablet competition... the same strategy they are doing before (remember OS5, 6 & 7?)...
As my mother said, we should still hope for the best... but at the same time, prepare for the worst...
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