- 01-15-13, 11:25 PM #52
Re: BB10 Appworld, a garbage bin even before start ?
I've said this many of times, apps were made popular because of the iPhone's lack luster browser capabilities. Steve Jobs, what a smart man but we shouldn't need an app to browse a website or just to watch videos. You should be able to browse freely - save a bookmark as a launcher to the homescreen and done. Anything done on a desktop, you can do on your phone.
When this happens, non game/utility apps will be an afterthought. RIM is suppose to be leading the change with the BB10 browser.
- 01-15-13, 11:31 PM #53
- 01-15-13, 11:41 PM #54
- 01-16-13, 12:06 AM #55
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- 01-16-13, 02:39 AM #58
What are all the development options for BB10? The ones I'm most interested in are Cascades and Qt/QML, the former built on top of the latter, because they're easy to code for and there's always C++ for the heavy lifting. This is the usual development environment for Symbian, Maemo and Meego so porting should be easy.
Sorry about the AIR dig... it's just that most AIR apps on App World are slow. Ported or sideloaded Android apps run much faster.
- 01-16-13, 02:53 AM #59
Qt/QML is very interesting, and it's what I'm attempting myself. There are some gorgeous effects in it, and it's amazingly tweakable. It still needs some work, but it's solid right now.
- 01-16-13, 03:45 AM #60
Anything but Dalvik... that VM irks my sensibilities
- 01-16-13, 07:01 AM #61
The way I see it is, these PORTED apps are good to have in BB10, it's almost like lifting Androids app database and dumping it in to BB10 App World, then saying to the android peeps "psst, look over here, look what we have for you "
Then you have the second higher quality fully deeper integrated apps that are "made for Blackberry", which have a "criteria" of certain features/quality etc that must be fulfilled before being accepted anyway.
I welcome all the great apps and even the sh*t ones, because before I download I do so either by checking:
1) Most popular apps
(then I read through the reviews before downloading)
2) I search for apps
(then I read through the reviews before downloading)
3) Crackberry usually does some good app reviews, which in turn I've gone and downloaded
4) Friends tell me to get this app or that app "cause its cool"
Some of you think that IF there's 5 billion million thousand hundred apps in App World, you will NEVER be able to sift through to the good ones, my argument is, search & destroy! I mean Search and read reviews, I RARELY see some of the crap apps in the current App World, some of you are spending way too much time just browsing through endlessly hoping to stumble upon something but just end up finding trash.
- 01-16-13, 08:56 AM #62
I agree completely there is an app gap. But I think it's silly to say to go the other extreme too. They have *some* big name apps. They are missing others. And unless you've tried everything on the platform, don't make sweeping, ignorant statements about the quality of everything on the platform.
And I also disagree with "foot in grave". When they've mortgaged all their buildings and are past due six months on said mortgage, we can talk.
Such extremes ...
- 01-16-13, 09:02 AM #63
- 01-16-13, 09:11 AM #64
OP, I'm confused. Is it your opinion that because such a large number of apps were ported from another OS to BB10, they were so "port"-able that they must be garbage? Or is it that the process of porting creates garbage apps?
- 01-16-13, 11:32 AM #66
And if you're not bashing RIM then you're bashing a whole lot of earnest developers who've put a lot of effort into their apps. Have some respect sir.
- 01-16-13, 11:48 AM #68
These promotions are way too easy to qualify. Web launchers are enough to get you $100 each, and a free PlayBook or even a Dev Alpha. Web launchers quality for everything except the trade up according to RIM. People will rightfully so take advantage of these promotions. To be honest, these promotions are small developer's pay day. I spent a ton of time on my PlayBook apps. I've made maybe $50 in sales before my paid apps showed up on the piracy sites. With the BB10 launch I've already made enough to probably buy 2 BB10 phones, I've qualified for the limited edition trade up, and I've made a ton of points that can be traded in for BlackBerry merchandize.
None of my BB10 apps took longer than a hour to build. The apps work and they meat RIM's standards obviously. But I know they are what most would consider to be crapps. I know several other developer friends that have pumped out crapps just to qualify for RIM's promotions. The same way people did just enough to get a free PlayBook a couple of years ago.
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the OP clearly has dubious intentions with this thread... look at the title. how can you judge whether or not something is garbage before the start? isn't that like judging a book by its cover? the question itself is stupid and this thread is a waste of time. you haven't seen the 15k apps and i doubt you ever will know which came directly from this port-a-thon. i'm not one to directly attack people on this forum, but if you jump to conclusions before having all the facts, better yet, ANY of the facts you are aren't the sharpest tool in the shed.
- 01-16-13, 01:58 PM #71
Dont think its fair to label the OP like that.
Hes basing his concerns on a history with the PlayBook, same promotions, awful end result with terrible quickly made apps that degraded the app store.
RIM will have learned from this Im sure but its a fair concern to have.
If you read up about 2 posts theres an actual developer saying he feels the promotions are too easy to qualify for, and people are handing in loads of 'crap apps' to try and get easy prizes.
Suppose the key point is we ought not to get too excited with the numbers being thrown about, at least until Jan 30.
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- 01-16-13, 02:30 PM #74
I am taking a course about data analysis and application R features prominently. I download the lecture videos, lecture notes provided by the instructor, and assignments to the tablet; watch the lectures on my schedule using Files and Folders to manage the videos and the default video player to view them ; access my own R environment via the default web browser to complete the assignments; and take the quizzes and exams on-line via the default web browser. Lecture notes and supplementary reading materials are read using Pdf Reader (not Abobe Reader); Syntax is the editor used for the R programming assignments unless remotely accessing the R application server via the web browser.
- 01-16-13, 02:46 PM #75
While i'm sure the OP was just trolling, he has a point and it's what I myself thought when Alec was touting 15,000 apps ported. My first thought was "Well hopefully someone is sifting thru them before they put them into App World". While i'm sure the whole point of the "Port-a-thon" is to show devs how easy it is, i'm pretty sure most of those apps were probably junk ones. Whatever the solution may be, I sincerely hope that the BB10 App store is miles above the PB one, because that one was literally embarrasing to sift thru..and i'm not even referring to quantity.
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