[FSeverino]

I think that there are a couple of ways to look at this...

If people didnt side-load paid apps then i dont see a problem. But there is a problem when people side-load paid apps because the developers lose money.

If developers made their paid android apps available in the App World then we would actually have the ability to pay for them rather then side-load them.

Side-loading can be allowed but only through developer accounts/logins

Personally I think side-loading makes the PB what it is... it actualizes a lot of the potential that has been thrown away by the lack of developers in the market. I would hate to see this feature be taken out, at least in the current App World state.

[Foreverup]

And exactly how would you and me and everyone else feel if MS suddently decided to close up Windows and that the only apps/programs you could load were those that MS sold in their store?



"Sorry, this is MS' Windows and you shall not be entitled to sideload programs of any sort on OUR system."



Obviously, they included "sideloading" in the Options and I can see that they could remove it. But that does not make it right. It is still MY tablet.

absolutely not the same thing I'm talking apples to your oranges.

Sideloading is completely different from going out and getting extra software for windows (purchased or shareware) that was developed for the windows platform.

you are taking someone elses work and re coding from what it was originally intented through a loophole meant for said developers.

but you right the device is your but those apps are not.

btw im assume we are talking about PCs when we say windows
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[DeonADB]

I'm going to quote some of the things he tweeted after that
"We've got devs who refuse to work with us until it's gone. Sorry guys."
"we're removing sideloading for consumers. Pretty sure we've got a solution for devs."




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[goku_vegeta]

If I update with a few sideloaded apps insatlled, will the update process delete those sideloaded apps?

Yes it will.

[DAnklaud]

The greatest thing about free&open sideloading is a have the ability to choose not to pirate apps ( like a free Man ) instead of being treated like a 30 year old child, 'cause of some other people crimes ( I am not guilty of anyone's crimes but my own, so to punish me for others mistakes is a severe mistake AGAINST Me; and RIM is in hot water again for patent litigation -PIRACY-, who the F is a bunch of pirates to say don't pirate)

[ody360]

From a rim point of view, they need to get developers on board, especially in preparation for bb10. It's also a mainstay on how to make some money. And it should lead to more (hopefully) native apps that should cover most people's needs.

Then the xda devs can then jump on board as well to try and root this baby as well

[Bobcat665]

If people didnt side-load paid apps then i dont see a problem. But there is a problem when people side-load paid apps because the developers lose money.

If developers made their paid android apps available in the App World then we would actually have the ability to pay for them rather then side-load them.

^^^ THIS!!!
and 10char

[kirikouestpetit]

How many people can use an ipad to buy from the Android market or App world? How many Android tablets can buy from Apples app store or App world?

James

They don't need to.
They already have all the apps they need

[davefootball123]

Yes it will.

Will 2.0.1 or 2.1 feature the removal of sideloading.

[dejanh]

I'm personally okay with side-loading being removed if and only if RIM will ensure that they bring the big-name apps like Kindle, Skype, and Netflix to the PlayBook prior to them removing side-loading. I personally have not side-loaded any apps and do not want to bother even attempting to do it, but I do see a legitimate need for this with PBs current ecosystem. Tablet devices seem to be dependent on a abundance of useful apps, and PlayBook does not have many of those at all right now. Get the apps out (even for just a week) and when people see that they are there push out an update that kills the side-loading.

[DJBS4LIFE]

Well damn.. That would kinda suck because I use some apps I need like soundcloud, paypal, tweetcaster etc. Tweetcaster is one of the best and we still have no good twitter app. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Hope these apps officially come to the playbook. I LOVE MY PLAYBOOK!!!

[peter9477]

So, I will only be allowed to purchase from Rim? I know that they do have freeware. But no such thing possible as shareware? Or donate-ware. So, all mp3 players should be once again, locked to a single store? I can only purchase kindle books from Amazon?

Why would this model of distribution prevent shareware or donate-ware? In fact, it may make it much easier, as developers can use the in-app payment API to allow you to make donations straight from the same account you would use to purchase apps in App World (even through carrier billing, in future).

Will 2.0.1 or 2.1 feature the removal of sideloading.

I don't think we know for sure, but it's not been mentioned as part of 2.0.1 in any of the information we've heard, whereas certain other related changes have been mentioned for 2.0.1. I really hope we'll find out soon.

By the way, I don't think it's guaranteed that previously side-loaded apps will be disabled by updating, though obviously anyone who is concerned about that should simply hold off updating until someone else finds out and reports on it.

[FSeverino]

They don't need to.
They already have all the apps they need

agreed... in a way.

i think that side-loading should be allowed for all stores. if there is a cool app for iOS that i can get on droid then why not?

[MobileMadness002]

no sideloading .....android here i come!

I'll buy your PB for $50.00

[angellsl]

If sideloading is disabled, I'll dump my pb for sure.

[DJBS4LIFE]

Pretty easy and not rocket science.. Don't want your Android app sideloaded? Then port it over to the PlayBook so we can get it from Appworld. Playbook has lots of users that WANT YOUR APPS!

[papped]

To all the people freaking out, sell your PB now and save everybody here some headache...

You're just going to be complaining all over again later when this gets finalized (and all the way up to the release) anyways...

[davefootball123]

Unless the developer of PYKL3 who I have contacted many times, brings PYKL3 to the App World, I will seriously consider selling my Playbook if he doesnt. Its the only android app I need.

[Alphax45]

The one app I have sideloaded (IM+) crashes all the time and I have to reboot to run any Android apps again. There is a native PB app but nowhere near the same functionality. I find in general the Android player doesn't work well.

[DJBS4LIFE]

We shouldn't have to sell our Playbooks! I know I'm not going too and I'm really excited to see how the new BB's turn out with BB10 But what's the whole point of making an amazing tablet if we don't have good useful apps?

[lomed7724]

These are the same devs who left us all out in the cold for years while programing for IPAD!!! Screw them! two of my favorite zynga apps are sideloaded as well as repligo reader which i use at work every day!! When they kill all my sideloaded apps will they all be replaced for a native app!! Doubtful!!! Total BS

[DJBS4LIFE]

These are the same devs who left us all out in the cold for years while programing for IPAD!!! Screw them! two of my favorite zynga apps are sideloaded as well as repligo reader which i use at work every day!! When they kill all my sideloaded apps will they all be replaced for a native app!! Doubtful!!! Total BS

I hear ya on that one. It's like what's the excuse now? QNX and the Playbook is amazing and up to par plus some, so why how come they don't want to get their app over here?? Playbook already proved itself and it's users are growing everyday. DUH!

[AWDragon200]

See the tweet below, but Alec Saunders basically informed us that in future versions, sideloading apps wont be an option on the playbook. I for one would be very disappointed if this happened. Most of the android apps that I actually use are sideloaded.

Likely BB10 phones as well? Right now my OS6 phone allows app install outside of appworld. Directly from browser on phone.

[nappp]

maybe where there's a will, there's a way?!!!

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[TorchMach1]

I don't sideload because I want to, I sideload because I have to - to get the best apps for my PB. If they are on appworld I will load them from there. If they cost something - I am more than willing (happy actually) to pay for the apps I want/need. RIM brought this on themselves by releasing a product with great capability but no way to access that capability. Just like OS1.0. They promised Android capability but then we get the phone version not the tablet version. The PB is has the most capability of any tablet. I wish RIM would quit fooling around and use it or the users will end up doing it themselves or trying anyways. And frankly a partially or wholly open platform is not a bad thing.
Just my $.02

+1

These are my thoughts are very similar to my own. Provide the apps people want and we won't NEED to side load.

I bought the playbook under the impression that I would be able to run android apps while enjoying the playbook os. So far, this has only been minimally possible through side loading. I will gladly pay for native playbook apps if they are available. In fact, I would much prefer to use native apps.

Using piracy as an excuse is just poor. There is always going to be a percentage of people who want to pirate. I would argue the ability to load your own apps contributes to the sales of both the device and legitimate apps. These sales outweigh the piracy. Why do you think android became so popular to begin with? The open os, ability to load your own apps, and tinker with the device is a huge reason for the popularity and success. Yes, there are some who pirate, but that ability to do bad with the os is far outweighed by the ability to do good.