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Old 02-12-2012, 12:24 PM
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Will someone please explain to me what the iPad does that the PB does not? I know, the iPad is bigger. (I can hardly hold my PB on my chest trying to read in bed) I know they have 500,000 apps, but if you can't surf the web, you HAVE to have all those apps; (how many ways are there to play PacMan?) What else? I don't get all the hype... The iPad is better because... just because. Really?
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I think we're in a world of Absolutes. The PB will probably never outsell the Apple of the day. If BB regains growth and momentum in the market, there's room for several platforms. BB can't win with Americans. They have 8-10 models, none of them are any good. Apple has ONE, it's the best? BB has a model for many different people/tasks/wants. You have choice. Apple has ONE: Accept, and be indoctrinated. iPad users: How many apps on your tablet? I have a PB 16GB, I have loaded 5 apps. (besides included) No games. I have 16 on my Torch 9800.
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I think we're in a world of Absolutes. The PB will probably never outsell the Apple of the day. If BB regains growth and momentum in the market, there's room for several platforms. BB can't win with Americans. They have 8-10 models, none of them are any good. Apple has ONE, it's the best? BB has a model for many different people/tasks/wants. You have choice. Apple has ONE: Accept, and be indoctrinated. iPad users: How many apps on your tablet? I have a PB 16GB, I have loaded 5 apps. (besides included) No games. I have 16 on my Torch 9800.
I think this has been asked before and several stated the have hundreds but use 4 or 5 mostly. They have the other hundreds in case. I don't know if they are counting all the weblaunchers they wouldn't need if it supported flash.
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of course os 2 has a hidden feature that sends out signals that are capable of messing up apple A4 and A5 CPU chips used in the iPad. So whenever a a playbook with os2 is around an iPad the iPad will stop working. This is a problem for stores like best buy since they stock the tablets close together the iPads will all be bricked because of the near by playbooks. So everyone who buys an iPad will receive it broken and then they will return it and buy playbooks.





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Yes all they have to do is make the price $50
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Will someone please explain to me what the iPad does that the PB does not? I know, the iPad is bigger. (I can hardly hold my PB on my chest trying to read in bed) I know they have 500,000 apps, but if you can't surf the web, you HAVE to have all those apps; (how many ways are there to play PacMan?) What else? I don't get all the hype... The iPad is better because... just because. Really?
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about the size difference, a 9" screen with ratio 4:3 actually very good for magazine, comic, pdf, document and website, media app.

I dont have any "web-app" on my iPad, most of sites I visit daily like theverge, slashdot, imdb, gmail, dropbox, wired, arstechnica, youtube,... work flawless.
Maybe if you need flash for some work-related or important site then the playbook clearly is a better choice. But with Adobe stops development of mobile flash and Microsoft don't support flash in Metro IE for Windows 8 tablet I dont think flash will be a problem for tablet users.

The main difference between iPad and other tablet is apps, quality and quantity.
Just point out some apps I use. Note taking and handwriting, on iPad you have alot of top notch, best in class app, on Playbook or Android its hard to find some decent one.
The same for PDF viewer, annotate, with full of features, engine optimization, cloud sync,... On Android, the only decent app I can find is ezPDF which is terrible compared to GoodReader, PDF Expert, iAnnotate on iOS. Can't even find a half decent one on PlayBook.

Office suite, DocsToGo do not even come close to iWork suite, feature or UI/UX wise.
OmniGroup also offer all of it apps on iPad. GTD, outline, diagram, process chart, project plan, .... The quality of Omni software is one of the best on OSX and can compare to Microsoft software (Visio, Project, Outlook). The Omni Group

Video editing apps like iMovie, Avid Studio, photo editing apps with RAW support like Photogene, PhotoForge 2, Filterstorm, Snapseed (from nixsoftware). Android or Playbook dont have anything to compare. Not to mention music app like GarageBand, Maschine,...

SketchBook Pro from Autodesk and other great drawing apps, vector drawing apps.
Need a reference management software for academic works? You have Papers and Sente.
Software for a writer? You have Scrivener, iA Writer,... (if you are a writer, you probably know those apps on Windows/OSX)

RSS client, Read it later app, text editor, code editor, ftp, ssh app, graphic calculator, calendar, todo, starglazing, mindmapping,.... you name it.

Thing is not only the app's quality on iPad is a league ahead of other platform, but it come with a wide range of choice, expensive or cheap, plain simple or sophisticated features. You have the option to buy whatever fit your need, your style.

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Default i think the next OS will have alot to live up to

I returned one of my playbooks for the 7" acer iconia tablets thats a little more in price 249 before the 199 playbook tag and it does so much more right now. Stream across your home network, android OS. I maybe expecting alot from this next update i just hope i can do the most typical things that most of these tablets can. If not ill just return my un-opened one for a android tablet.
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i dont want anything to outsell the i-stuff so i can buy good/better stuff for the 3rd of the price.
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i dont want anything to outsell the i-stuff so i can buy good/better stuff for the 3rd of the price.
Have to agree, good with the playbook not being a top player, underdog always works harder to please & is a better value. Just needs to be successful enough that rim doesn't drop it altogether.

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about the size difference, a 9" screen with ratio 4:3 actually very good for magazine, comic, pdf, document and website, media app.

I dont have any "web-app" on my iPad, most of sites I visit daily like theverge, slashdot, imdb, gmail, dropbox, wired, arstechnica, youtube,... work flawless.
Maybe if you need flash for some work-related or important site then the playbook clearly is a better choice. But with Adobe stops development of mobile flash and Microsoft don't support flash in Metro IE for Windows 8 tablet I dont think flash will be a problem for tablet users.

The main difference between iPad and other tablet is apps, quality and quantity.
Just point out some apps I use. Note taking and handwriting, on iPad you have alot of top notch, best in class app, on Playbook or Android its hard to find some decent one.
The same for PDF viewer, annotate, with full of features, engine optimization, cloud sync,... On Android, the only decent app I can find is ezPDF which is terrible compared to GoodReader, PDF Expert, iAnnotate on iOS. Can't even find a half decent one on PlayBook.

Office suite, DocsToGo do not even come close to iWork suite, feature or UI/UX wise.
OmniGroup also offer all of it apps on iPad. GTD, outline, diagram, process chart, project plan, .... The quality of Omni software is one of the best on OSX and can compare to Microsoft software (Visio, Project, Outlook). The Omni Group

Video editing apps like iMovie, Avid Studio, photo editing apps with RAW support like Photogene, PhotoForge 2, Filterstorm, Snapseed (from nixsoftware). Android or Playbook dont have anything to compare. Not to mention music app like GarageBand, Maschine,...

SketchBook Pro from Autodesk and other great drawing apps, vector drawing apps.
Need a reference management software for academic works? You have Papers and Sente.
Software for a writer? You have Scrivener, iA Writer,... (if you are a writer, you probably know those apps on Windows/OSX)

RSS client, Read it later app, text editor, code editor, ftp, ssh app, graphic calculator, calendar, todo, starglazing, mindmapping,.... you name it.

Thing is not only the app's quality on iPad is a league ahead of other platform, but it come with a wide range of choice, expensive or cheap, plain simple or sophisticated features. You have the option to buy whatever fit your need, your style.
Not to mention music creation, third party accesccories, etc.. iPad is the de facto standard:
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Iphone and Ipad are like drugs, and the world is hooked to them...to be fair, iphone and ipad sell not just marketing, but they are easy to use, polished, well design and lots of developer support. That said, blackberry and pb are also good products, the problem I see with RIM is not lack of marketing or lack of innovation, but lack of the DNA in making their products "easy to use". Look at storm, isn't the clickable screen an innovation? I thought it was innovative, but it didn't gel with consumers. Look at PB, yes the bezel gesture and swiping is innovative, but didn't they realize that many consumers don't know how it works? People expects a "home" button, but the pb has no home button. Give a pb to anyone, he will be at a loss how to use it...what RIM needs to do is 2 things- make its products easier to use, court developers, and prey it has enough fans to stay alive!

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Lol...why the F are we (me included) reading much less responding to this thread.
On a serious note will the bold 9900 outsell the iphone when 7.1 becomes available for everyone??
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Do you think people that paid $199.00 for their PB are going to be willing to pay $499.00 for future models?
Well I can't see the future; can you? One thing I know though: you have a greater chance of generating profit through good marketing than bad marketing or none at all.
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