The forever Memory Discussion/Issue

**JonnyCerv** · 03-29-2008, 08:10 PM

I am aware of the memory issue and have freed up about 15 mb. Wish I could get it higher....but just debating on deleting memo-pad, e-mail setup, etc.. (even though I never use them)

My question:

Why does this memory loss happen? I have soft-reset and when I drain to about 9mb, I reset and get back to 13-15 depending on how many messages I have. Is it programs left open?

Another question about Soft-reset: Is it the same as a battery pull?

Still love the Pearl no matter what. This phone has become permantly attached to my hip and is always there in a waiting room, sitting on the couch, on the "can", etc.

Wondering you take on the situation?!?!

**chaz_cb** · 03-29-2008, 08:14 PM

Your data connection is always running, and yes - some apps continue to run at all times. To my knowledge, Softreset is the same as a battery pull. I usually gain the same whether I pull or use softreset.

**JonnyCerv** · 03-29-2008, 08:19 PM

Good deal. I guess I would like to free up more memory...but what the heck do I delete?? Any suggestions??

**chaz_cb** · 03-29-2008, 08:21 PM

Read this - lots of good info:
How do I free up memory on my device? - BlackBerryFAQ

**garbagefairy1967** · 03-29-2008, 08:24 PM

I haven't had any memory issues yet, knock on wood, but should you delete memo pad and things like that you don't use?

**chaz_cb** · 03-29-2008, 08:27 PM

I kept memo pad (use it once in a while) but got rid of a few others. Can't remember them now, I don't have them to look at. lol

**ywbyun** · 03-29-2008, 09:02 PM

I can only see the third party applications that I installed. I've posted about not being able to see the native apps even with desktop manager app loader but haven't gotten any responses. Can anyone help me with this? How do I set my device so I can see ALL applications!?!

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**chaz_cb** · 03-29-2008, 09:04 PM

Do you have the OS from your device also installed on your PC? If not, you can D/L it from here:
BlackBerry - BlackBerry Desktop and Device Software Download Sites
then install to your PC. It will then show up in App loader.

**ywbyun** · 03-29-2008, 09:10 PM

i don't understand...are you talking about the desktop manager? Why would I install the device OS on my PC?

**chaz_cb** · 03-29-2008, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by ywbyun

i don't understand...are you talking about the desktop manager? Why would I install the device OS on my PC?

It has to be on there for several reasons. It's the only way app loader will work.

**chaz_cb** · 03-29-2008, 09:38 PM

This explains part of it:
Application Loader Error - BlackBerryFAQ

**korbas12** · 03-29-2008, 10:43 PM

Is it possible to expand the available memory using a micro SD card?

**uncheels23** · 03-29-2008, 10:53 PM

You can store pics and music on an sd card

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**ywbyun** · 03-29-2008, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by Chaz

Do you have the OS from your device also installed on your PC? If not, you can D/L it from here:
BlackBerry - BlackBerry Desktop and Device Software Download Sites
then install to your PC. It will then show up in App loader.

Chaz,

Thanks for the link but I'm still kind of lost. I still don't know what you mean when you say "OS". I'll be as specific as possible.

When I click on your link, it takes me to the BB site. From there, I find Verizon's link, which then takes me to the Verizon Wireless site. Once there, I have 3 different options to download for the 8130:

1. BlackBerry Desktop Software v4.3 (updated 11/20/2007) -- This is the download that installs the most up to date Desktop Manager as well as Roxio, which is used as the Media Manager. This installation file is pretty much the same thing as installing from the CD that came with the 8130.

2. BlackBerry Device Software v4.3 (updated 2/26/2008) -- This is the most recent OS for the BB Pearl. I have already updated to this OS version so on my Device the OS is on version 4.3.0.97

3. VZAccess Manager Software -- This is for my air card...nothing to do with BB.

Now, which one of these are you referring to when you say OS? I'm guessing option 2 but that is installed on the Pearl. How am I supposed to install that on the PC?

Thanks for your help.

**ywbyun** · 03-29-2008, 11:18 PM

Ok, nevermind. I'm not sure what happened but when all fails start from scratch.

I uninstalled everything and just reinstalled everything again and it seems to be working fine now.

Thanks for the help Chaz.

**greystealth** · 03-29-2008, 11:43 PM

My memory takes quite a while to go down however the issue has lessened since the update to .97. My recommendation, always hit close when closing out of programs, keep your browser cache clean if you notice yourself browsing the internet frequently, of course save every type of media onto memory card and proactively do a soft reset every couple of days or just before going to bed. Other tips are helpful, those are the ones that have helped me.

**korbas12** · 03-30-2008, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by blueberry23

You can store pics and music on an sd card

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Yes...but what about software? Is it possible to install BB programs on the card and then run them from that, or do they need to be on the Berry itself?

**truckman** · 03-30-2008, 01:40 AM

a soft reset is not the same as a battery pull. a soft reset is when u use the power button or a prog called softreset to turn off the device then turn it back on, a hard reset is when you pull the battery. the hard reset is harder on the device since when you pull the battery you lose power and everything closes at once and the device is dead it dies hard, the soft reset allows the device to go through its closing down procedure of saving settings and other **** like that, its kinda like a pc its better to use the shutdown feature other than uplug it.a soft reset accomplishes the same as a hard reset most of the time. just a piece of knowledge ill pass along to you guys that a learned from the best blackberry site out there crackberry this very same crackberry site

**truckman** · 03-30-2008, 01:41 AM

and also you can not run programs off of ur mem card it would be handy as heck and easier to maintain free space on the device but you cant do it at this time

**boomerbsg** · 03-30-2008, 04:55 AM

i guess i'm one of the lucky ones.. i never do a battery pull.. ever.
and i very rarely if ever find myself having to do a soft-reset either.

**JonnyCerv** · 03-30-2008, 01:53 PM

Great explanation Truckman!! Much appreciated. Glad I have the soft-reset.

Just deleted MemoPad....now thinking about Tasks. Just don't use it. Any other "delete" suggestions?

**jwadejr9** · 03-30-2008, 02:00 PM

How on earth do you guys NOT use Memo Pad? Ive got hundreds of memos on there that I absolutely need...

**korbas12** · 03-30-2008, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by jwadejr9

How on earth do you guys NOT use Memo Pad? Ive got hundreds of memos on there that I absolutely need...

I don't have hundreds...but I do have operating hours for several businesses (gym, library, etc) that I need to keep up with. I used to have these on a card in my wallet, which took up space, and part of the Berry's purpose is to eliminate this. I can't see why anyone would want to get rid of the memo pad.

The task list is useless though and cannot be synced, so I think I'll get rid of it.

**ywbyun** · 03-30-2008, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by korbas12

The task list is useless though and cannot be synced, so I think I'll get rid of it.

Tasks can be synched with the exchange server if you have BES setup

**korbas12** · 03-31-2008, 04:02 AM

Originally Posted by ywbyun

Tasks can be synched with the exchange server if you have BES setup

Yes; however, I'm not too hot on the idea of putting my tasks in Outlook for everyone at work to potentially get into. BES is not something I go anywhere near.