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I'm not anti-progress, I'm just not anti useless stuff in my phone that will make it more expensive without any need.
Maybe I'm stupid for wanting features that actualy do something in real life, instead of features made to make the specsheet look pretty. Unfortunatly, the ignorant consumer eats everything that "has more"... For the ignorant, more=better, even when more is actually worse (like too many megapixels)
I'm sorry, I don't buy that kind of consumerist behaviour.09-30-14 03:05 PMLike 0 -
Posted via CB10Spawn12 likes this.09-30-14 03:56 PMLike 1 - kbz1960Doesn't MatterWich progress? There's no progress, Phones are SO FAR from needing 64bit.
I'm not anti-progress, I'm just not anti useless stuff in my phone that will make it more expensive without any need.
Maybe I'm stupid for wanting features that actualy do something in real life, instead of features made to make the specsheet look pretty. Unfortunatly, the ignorant consumer eats everything that "has more"... For the ignorant, more=better, even when more is actually worse (like too many megapixels)
I'm sorry, I don't buy that kind of consumerist behaviour.09-30-14 03:58 PMLike 0 -
The benneficts of a 64bit processor is that it runs better applications which handle large data arrays, otherwise is the same as 32bit. And phone applications are still a bit far from taking advantage of a 64bit processor (phones don't even have enought memory to run large data arrays), even most PC are... You won't see much beneficts in running 64bits in sotfware othar than Games or CAD, it's as simple as that.
Open Photoshop in both 32 or 64 bits for example, unless you're dealing with a high number of files and crazy *** textures like High res pictures, you won't see ANY difference in performance between the two. The same with running windows 32 or 64bit. if you never go over the usage of 4gb of ram, there are NO benneficts in performance. Same with games, there were plenty with games that installed both 32 and 64bit version... Again, no difference...
Rule of thumb, if you never use more than 4GB of ram, you won't see a gain in performance... Ask any IT specialist you want. 64 vs 32bit has been around for AGES in the desktop industry, and phones processors aren't changing anything, because phone processors are the same as desktop processors, but with a much simpler architecture = less instructions per cyle09-30-14 04:08 PMLike 0 - kbz1960Doesn't Matter
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I'm not saying bb should or shouldn't. I'm just saying there are benefits from it.09-30-14 05:35 PMLike 0 - 32-bit vs 64-bit - Difference and Comparison | Diffen
I'm not saying bb should or shouldn't. I'm just saying there are benefits from it.
Posted via CB10app_Developer likes this.09-30-14 05:44 PMLike 1 - What the flipping squirel are you even talking about. No mobile OS is 64-bit yet, nor would any mobile OS even benefit from being coded in 64-bit right now. Not to mention that the iPhone will probably the last phone on the planet that goes from 32-bit to 64-bit; you do realize that Apple hates even the idea of including anything over 1GB RAM on their iPhones, right? And I can't imagine iOS working very well on just 1GB RAM if apps are built on 64-bit.
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Are you serious or trolling here?
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I'm not saying bb should or shouldn't. I'm just saying there are benefits from it.09-30-14 06:44 PMLike 0 - Yes when we get to 4gb of ram we'll need the os to be 64bit. Until then it's pointless and I'm pretty sure BlackBerry is making bb10 64bit ready now as we have a device with 3gb already.
The iphone comes with 1gb of ram so for them to even advertise 64bit is kind of funny.
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Posted via CB1009-30-14 06:57 PMLike 0 - Put it this way: the iPhone 4s and iPhone 5 ran on iOS 7 and 8, even though those OSes were for the 64-bit iPhone 5s and above.
No reason why the Passport shouldn't be supported for at least a couple of years.
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Tout iOS being 64-bit all you want, but the fact is that it runs nearly identical to when it was still 32-bit due to limited RAM on iOS devices.
Posted via CB10Joao Oliveira likes this.09-30-14 07:12 PMLike 1 - While this is technically correct, the fact that all iPhones are 1GB means that is doesn't benefit from a 64-bit instruction set at all. The only reason Apple moved iOS to 64-bit was to unify the iOS/OS X app codebase and making it easier for developers to code for both.
Tout iOS being 64-bit all you want, but the fact is that it runs nearly identical to when it was still 32-bit due to limited RAM on iOS devices.
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You also have much more register space which is extremely useful on ARM.
People are comparing Intel 32 vs 64 to ARMv7 vs v8 and these are very different things. Even if phones never reach 4GB+, the improved instruction set and all the extra register space are very useful.
Sent from my iPhone 6 using Tapatalk09-30-14 07:22 PMLike 2 - Yes when we get to 4gb of ram we'll need the os to be 64bit. Until then it's pointless and I'm pretty sure BlackBerry is making bb10 64bit ready now as we have a device with 3gb already.
The iphone comes with 1gb of ram so for them to even advertise 64bit is kind of funny.
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Posted via CB1010-01-14 06:46 AMLike 0 - Not true. BlackBerry 10.2.1 had a lot more features out of the box (and still has) than iOS7 and WP8. With BlackBerry 10.3 that lead increased even more. 64 bit support is not a feature as it doesn't benefit the user yet. It wouldn't make the Passport do more things or run faster (it's already as fast as a mobile device can be).
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Seriously what is the downside? No one can tell me.
Posted with Passport via CB1010-01-14 07:25 AMLike 2 -
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I'm not saying bb should or shouldn't. I'm just saying there are benefits from it.
64 bit system usually use 40 bit for memory address, to reduce overhead and pointers size, as 1 TB of memory would not be available in the near future, or needed.app_Developer and kbz1960 like this.10-01-14 09:14 AMLike 2 - It could improve battery life. The OS could be more efficient overall. It's not only RAM. And the other benefit is that we'd not be catching up again when Android is 64-bit and we can't handle a new runtime. Nothing wrong with being ahead of the curve and on the bleeding edge if it has NO downsides. Also, NOW is the time to do it, before people have developed too many apps as BlackBerry could be making a comeback.
Seriously what is the downside? No one can tell me.
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There is no downside, but it's something that is not required at the moment and BlackBerry should probably focus on new features and existing bugs before future proofing the OS.
Posted via CB1010-01-14 02:37 PMLike 0 - One can kick *** and chew bubble gum at the same time.
Unless you are out of gums.
Not exactly. 64 bit processors are more complex, then more power needed.
I think the difference is almost irrelevant, but 64 bit processors usually bring a lot of new instruction and that's where the difference lies.10-02-14 02:13 PMLike 0
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