Confirm 8310 incompatible with Bell?

[ElliottG]

Hi guys

I searched but the threads are outdated and Bell has updated their technologies since then and now have SIM cards...

I read this on another thread:

Bell Mobility's GSM Network:


Bell Canada, together with Telus have recently joined together to launch their own GSM network in Canada to compete with Rogers and its discount brand Fido. This now gives Canadians the option to use GSM powered phones such as Apple's iPhone, GSM BlackBerrys and phones available worldwide via online web sites such as ebay. The pair also recently forced the Rogers network to drop it's claim to be the fastest and most reliable network through court action.

What's the real deal? I guess this is the reason why my BB isn't getting signal and only SOS...

Thanks,
Elliott

[lak611]

Bell only has HSPA+ and CDMA networks. They do not have the EDGE network that the 8310 uses. The 8310 will work on Rogers, but not on Bell or Telus.

[Fubaz]

Laura is 100% right...
The 9100,9300,9700,9780, 9800 and the 9000 work on Bells HSPA+ network

[ElliottG]

I see, thanks.

Although the 8330 will also work on Bell's network...at least they have it listed on their site:

About - Bell Mobility - Blackberry Curve 8330

[lak611]

Originally Posted by ElliottG

I see, thanks.

Although the 8330 will also work on Bell's network...at least they have it listed on their site:

About - Bell Mobility - Blackberry Curve 8330

If you get an 8330, it has to be branded to Bell. CDMA phones are generally not allowed to be added to a network if they do not have that carrier's branding.

[Fubaz]

Bell will NOT allow another carriers device on their network, and it must have Bells branding and a CLEAN esn

[ElliottG]

Originally Posted by lak611

If you get an 8330, it has to be branded to Bell. CDMA phones are generally not allowed to be added to a network if they do not have that carrier's branding.

I see

Originally Posted by Fubaz

Bell will NOT allow another carriers device on their network, and it must have Bells branding and a CLEAN esn

Well I've seen a bunch of people who have unlocked phones with Bell?

[lak611]

Originally Posted by ElliottG

I see



Well I've seen a bunch of people who have unlocked phones with Bell?

You can't unlock a CDMA phone without a SIM card.

The GSM phones that use HSPA+ (9000, 9100, 9700, 9780, 9300, 9800) can be unlocked and used on Bell.

[Motorcycle Mama]

What phones specifically?

[ElliottG]

Originally Posted by lak611

You can't unlock a CDMA phone without a SIM card.

The GSM phones that use HSPA+ (9000, 9100, 9700, 9780, 9300, 9800) can be unlocked and used on Bell.

I realize that and this phone was unlocked on Rogers...anyway I think I got confused by your last post and this post because it sounded like you contradicted yourself.

I'm guessing it's only due to to the frequences and lack of an EDGE network because I hear that Bell and Rogers use the same frequencies for HSPA+?

[lak611]

Originally Posted by ElliottG

I'm guessing it's only due to to the frequences and lack of an EDGE network because I hear that Bell and Rogers use the same frequencies for HSPA+?

Yes. Bell and Rogers use the same frequencies for HSPA+.

Bell does not have the frequencies for the 8310 (EDGE network).

The 8330 is CDMA, so like Fubaz says, you can use it on Bell, provided it is Bell branded with a clean ESN.

[ElliottG]

I see...so it's only the newer BB's that can run onthe HSPA+ network? And the older ones are CDMA and EDGE?

Just one time for future reference...Bell's only networks are: 3G? HSPA+? And CDMA? And the 8310 is an EDGE only phone?

[lak611]

Originally Posted by ElliottG

I see...so it's only the newer BB's that can run onthe HSPA+ network? And the older ones are CDMA and EDGE?

That is correct, to some point. There are a few newer ones that are CDMA or EDGE, but not all carriers have them.

8330, 8530, and 9670 are CDMA.

8900, 8520 are EDGE.

If you follow the list Fubaz gave, you will know which newer devices will work on Bell if unlocked.

Any CDMA device needs to be Bell branded with clean ESN, as Fubaz stated.

[lak611]

Originally Posted by ElliottG

I see...so it's only the newer BB's that can run onthe HSPA+ network? And the older ones are CDMA and EDGE?

Just one time for future reference...Bell's only networks are: 3G? HSPA+? And CDMA? And the 8310 is an EDGE only phone?

That is correct. 8310, 8320, 8520, 8900 are all EDGE only. None of those will work on Bell.

[ElliottG]

Originally Posted by lak611

That is correct. 8310, 8320, 8520, 8900 are all EDGE only. None of those will work on Bell.

Ahh that sucks...thanks.

Why do the CDMA phones have to be Bell branded? Why can't they be unlocked from another carrier?