- CrackBerry Abuser
- 288 Posts
OK...another reason for a toolbelt...see what you think
In all the reading around, I've yet to find this one...if I'm mistaken, apologies up front if this has been covered.
One of the reasons I went back to my 9900 Legacy was the simplicity. Simplicity in all kinds of ways (I'm not big on apps, bot functionality of the basics are what I am seeking). I admit it, I learned to be very fast with my Q10...I got real good with the swiping and I liked the speed of the BB10 and its added features. But the ease of sliding around that touch pad and touching on/off buttons on my Legacy was just much easier.
One of the factors in this is that larger hands and fingers. And yet prefer the smaller pocket size of my Bold or my Q10. I consistently found harder (and therefore slower) to touch the narrow bands on menus within the calendar function, the on/off "x" on apps, and other aspects within the Q10 layout where a touch was required. The touch pad of the Bold allows me to manuever around and either choose/select or so much more highlight the icon or command, its much easier to make my choices.
Was the Q10 unuseable for me...no. Just the Legacy fits me better. One of the reasons I'm looking ahead to the Q20 for the best of both worlds. Anyone else have Q10 difficulty due to sizing?
- CrackBerry Abuser
05-22-14, 11:45 AM #3
- 373 Posts
I think that's actually a major reason (besides the text selection), it requires a lot of concentration to touch the correct part of the screen and therefore slows you down or results in mistakes or simply cannot be operated in distracting conditions.
- 05-22-14, 12:09 PM #5
I want a slider though so I know what it's like to be unpopular. I imagine a Z10/30 screen with no bottom row of icons (phone/search/camera) but a trackpad to take its place. No more random flashes of lights as you take a million unwanted photos. No embarrassing mis dials.
Either that or a voice recognition that worked as well as James T Kirk's communicator. And forget about interface at all. Just a round spinning thing and some blinking lights. They'd have me on that for sure.
Z30 / STA100-5 / 10.2.1.2234 / T-Mobile USA
- 05-22-14, 12:41 PM #6
Why do touch screen users bother making negative comments in a Qwerty thread?
I was "told" Qwerty user don't want the tool belt. But it mostly like came from a touch user or someone that never used the 9900.
I think the "majority" of BB users don't come to CB because are phone are working just fine.
Yes, the track pad is the fastest with small or large hands. I have small hands and I always miss the keys on a touch phone. I can't imagine how you would hit them with large hands.
- 05-22-14, 01:37 PM #8
But I think all BlackBerry users should be understanding and tolerant of others. I'm using an all touch but man I really relate to a lot on the comments about people missing the trackpad.
Z30 / STA100-5 / 10.2.1.2234 / T-Mobile USA
- CrackBerry Master
05-22-14, 02:08 PM #9
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- 05-22-14, 04:59 PM #11
My finger is about 3/4" wide and obscures screen real estate from edge to finger tip. If the selected object is on the far corner of the screen, my finger obscures roughly 0.75"x3" = 2.25 square inches of screen real estate. The trackpad cursor tip can be a single pixel wide, about 0.0035", and the pointer arrow about 0.05" wide by about 0.08" long. The trackpad cursor only obscures, roughly, about 0.002 square inches of screen real estate.
- 05-22-14, 06:52 PM #12
They say in CB that the screen will be 3.5 vs 3.1 on the Q10 with a 1 to 1 ratio (square). But who knows for sure what the Q20 will look like. I'm ok with. 3.5 just as long as they use a ergonomic curved keyboard like on the 9900. This is the fast texting phone!
- 05-23-14, 09:30 AM #14
The 9900's curved keyboard is an ergonomic masterpiece that coordinates well with natural articulation radius of my old arthritic thumbs. The "straight" kb on the Q I used for a few months was ok but the 9930 is faster and more precise, for me. "Muscle memory" is also provided useful position data input for locating keys on the curved kb. Something somewhat lacking in the straight Q. Not terrible because the Q is the second best kb i've used. 9900's kb is the standard to judge all others by.
- 05-24-14, 01:04 PM #15
Actually I'm looking forward to the tool belt and I think the BlackBerry classic could make a very nice device. The only thing that might happen with a lot of Q10 users is that in the end they're not really using it because the swiping became so familiar.
Therefore a main success factor will be the way in which the tool belt is going to be implemented in terms of system integration.
- 05-25-14, 10:32 AM #16
- 05-26-14, 09:24 PM #19
Qwerty users want the apps and faster OS of the BB10 but want to keep the speed of the 9900 keyboard/track. Hopefully the Q20 will bring this together along with a faster processor, more RAM and storage. I thought I wanted a big screen, but I have excepted the fact I rather have the compact size for my pocket and use a tablet for surfing. Besides aren't we at home or office more than at a restaurant or shopping?
- 05-26-14, 10:11 PM #20
I come from the old tool belt days, even further back than that actually, and feel the Q10 is the perfect BlackBerry marriage. I will even say that a touch/keyboard device is where BlackBerry should've been a long long time ago. I find the swiping and touch to be more efficient than scrolling and scrolling on a trackpad. But, this is personal preference, just as it is for those who are reluctant to let go of their older devices. It really boils down to familiarity and muscle memory. Once we get used to a certain way, that way sticks with us until we feel adventurous again.
Thankfully BlackBerry has decided to bridge the gap with the Classic, which I hope will eventually bring all BlackBerry users to BB10. With all of the anticipation of the Classic posted here on CB, it seems as though the migration will start to happen.
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- 05-27-14, 12:43 AM #21
I have been full circle from tool belt to Z for nine months, to Q for 3 months and back to 9900. As a power user, I embrased and mastered these devices and squeezed optimum performance from each. There was NO "clinging to the familiar". There was NO "fear of new". I am as far from a technophobe as you will ever find. I openly challenge ANYone to best my performance on Z, Q or legacy.
In the end I just had to accept the honest truth that the 9900 is the best choice for what I do. That's all there is to it. Please, I beg of you, CB, BBRY and everyone else, please just accept that simple fact. Please.
7.1 has issues but it is mature. Maturity that includes some valuable capabilities. 10 has GREAT promise but is still maturing. Immaturity that has yet to include some valuable capabilities. Yet. I'm eagerly anticipating the day that 10 will be a TRUE upgrade. Maybe the Q20?
- 05-27-14, 06:34 AM #22
BB10 will eventually catch up to where OS7 was, even though they took the scenic path. It works for others and they were able to transition without losing their ability to function mobile. So again, personal preference and another's ability work something out for them.
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- 05-27-14, 08:03 AM #23
The ONLY reason you can refer to tool belt as "old" is simply because BBRY, CB and too many in these forums have arbitrarily chosen to call it old. If it's BBRY's intention to obsolete the toolbelt, that choice, or preference, simply isn't supported by the true life experience of too many power users. If coerced into abandoning the belt I, and many i know, will explore other beltless platforms. BBRY will not, in the foreseeable future, get another dime of my money without the toolbelt. If they're getting all the money they want then that preference is up to them.
- 05-27-14, 10:01 AM #25
Case in point, a valued coworker, last year, failed to properly hang up her Q and the customer listened for some time before calling me to warn me of the issue. His concern was that his competitors might have just as easily heard that conversation. There were previous incidents and we lost that customer who moved to our competitor. That competitor was still using 9650s, btw. I intervened and "took the hit for the team" to prevent management from discharging that valuable employee. Part of my hit involved identifying the problem and correcting it. We also lost last year's bonus. Coming to these forums seeking an implementable solution several in my crew encountered breathtakingly unhelpful condescension. I agree that "operator error" was the root cause. We had expected a transition period but it became inescapably obvious that hardware was contributing to the persistent errors. Errors that in a consumer environment are laughable. Errors that in a business environment are intolerable. Sorry for the long explanation. That's the "excuse" for my apparent sensitivity on the subject.
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