[Ragenbaum]

Visa and MC out of Russia, my wallet size says it all

Posted via CB10

[afhstingray]

Haha cool bro. Just messing with you. That's a really nice device. I really hope the Q20 will be a premium device. BlackBerry had the "acceptable premium" market all to itself. I mean like other than the bold series the next step up is what? Crazy stuff like vertu.

[Ragenbaum]

Have you looked at Blackphone? Just in case... not saying how desperate I am for Q20, having from-the-core encrypted device and communication - not the least to consider.

Posted via CB10

[afhstingray]

Have you looked at Blackphone? Just in case... not saying how desperate I am for Q20, having from-the-core encrypted device and communication - not the least to consider.

Posted via CB10

I'm not the ceo of a public listed company, neither do I make purchases via mobile so security isn't my top concern. Reliability and premium materials are what I'm after. I loved that bold with the leather back. Blackphone looks like ur usual generic all touch phone. I've been using the Q5 while my Z10 was sent back for warranty replacement, and many apps are not compatible with the square screen vs the normal screen on the Z10, so unless I'm planning to use my tablet for most things and the Q20 for communications, I think I'll stick with my Z10 for the foreseeable future