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    Default When will 7.1.x.xxx bugs gonna be fixed ?

    Okay so I am on 9900/7.1.0.391 now, I got my phone with 7.0 (.585) OS, and which so every OS I upgraded to was buggy, the only issue I had in OS 7.0 was youtube app, which how ever I have solved in this released
    I'm sick of these normal bugs RIM doesn't seem to release, or am I a new user to a BB ?
    I mean, pause/play and volume on headphones goes full
    BackLight timeout has mind of its own just set it n reboot and there u go its changed
    End call tone key (when u end the call that beep) is missing
    In direct sunlight the screen goes insane, it doesn't bright up or response no matter how ever you touch it, unless until you hide trackpad and touch

    I mean I know its not just me, but others are having same issues as well

    Anyone have any clue when will they gonna fix or should I just change the phone

    Thank you
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    Never had the pause/play volume issue, so that must be an app conflict not an OS bug
    Backlight timeout issue was fixed in .402
    Never even noticed the missing end call tone, probably a feature not a bug
    Never had the direct sunlight issue, but some say that was fixed in .318

    RIM have a reputation for one step forwards, two steps back... they fix one bug and introduce another.
    Always been that way, and probably always will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phill_UK View Post
    Never had the pause/play volume issue, so that must be an app conflict not an OS bug
    Backlight timeout issue was fixed in .402
    Never even noticed the missing end call tone, probably a feature not a bug
    Never had the direct sunlight issue, but some say that was fixed in .318

    RIM have a reputation for one step forwards, two steps back... they fix one bug and introduce another.
    Always been that way, and probably always will.
    Hahaha Phill, I was expecting reply from you
    Thank you so much
    Now I know I should have to deal with these issues on my own
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phill_UK View Post
    Never had the pause/play volume issue, so that must be an app conflict not an OS bug
    Backlight timeout issue was fixed in .402
    Never even noticed the missing end call tone, probably a feature not a bug
    Never had the direct sunlight issue, but some say that was fixed in .318

    RIM have a reputation for one step forwards, two steps back... they fix one bug and introduce another.
    Always been that way, and probably always will.

    I experience the pause/play myself as well. (it is there on .319 for sure)

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    Well told you there is, I posted stuff I knew and one more thing, in device>search, you unmark (show search history n clears history) save n its not gonna save some times
    I feel like going back to OS 7.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by estro22 View Post
    I experience the pause/play myself as well. (it is there on .319 for sure)
    It's .391 and it may be there for you... but I have never experienced it, so it's not a bug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phill_UK View Post
    It's .391 and it may be there for you... but I have never experienced it, so it's not a bug.
    Phill, here's a thing
    I know you always say the right thing, I trust you, can you suggest me the best OS 7.1 version ? I will be thanful
    It can be from any carrier I don't care, I will get it, it should be over all good, like batterylife and signal
    Please let me know and yeah last thing, stable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phill_UK View Post
    It's .391 and it may be there for you... but I have never experienced it, so it's not a bug.

    I meant 318, if this is not a bug what is it? (After pousing music and playing it again volume goes up...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by estro22 View Post
    I don't mean .391 I mean .319, if this is not a bug what is it? (After pousing music and playing it again volume goes up...)
    You mean .318
    It's an app conflict. If it was a bug, we'd all be experiencing it... but we're not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phill_UK View Post
    You mean .318
    It's an app conflict. If it was a bug, we'd all be experiencing it... but we're not.
    Tell me how it's reproduced, and then your point may be credible!

    My touch screen is less sensitive in sunlight too by the way, and I'm on .342.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mzman View Post
    Tell me how it's reproduced, and then your point may be credible!

    My touch screen is less sensitive in sunlight too by the way, and I'm on .342.
    I can barely use my touchscreen outdoors. Even when it's not in direct sunlight. It's definitely worse on 7.1 builds (.391 to be precise) than 7.0. I basically cover the trackpad with my thumb and then the touchscreen works fine. Not ideal, but it's just such a pain to spend the time to downgrade now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mzman View Post
    Tell me how it's reproduced, and then your point may be credible!
    Huh? If I could reproduce it, then it would be a bug... but I can't!
    Some people have mentioned that BeBuzz might be causing the conflict. Never used it so can't comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linux.bbm View Post
    Okay so I am on 9900/7.1.0.391 now, I got my phone with 7.0 (.585) OS, and which so every OS I upgraded to was buggy, the only issue I had in OS 7.0 was youtube app, which how ever I have solved in this released
    I'm sick of these normal bugs RIM doesn't seem to release, or am I a new user to a BB ?
    I mean, pause/play and volume on headphones goes full
    BackLight timeout has mind of its own just set it n reboot and there u go its changed
    End call tone key (when u end the call that beep) is missing
    In direct sunlight the screen goes insane, it doesn't bright up or response no matter how ever you touch it, unless until you hide trackpad and touch

    I mean I know its not just me, but others are having same issues as well

    Anyone have any clue when will they gonna fix or should I just change the phone

    Thank you
    Aight well here's the deal: I've noticed the pause/play volume since OS6 (maybe even 5.0). If you switch songs the volume lowers so while I'm working I'll quickly pause it so my volume goes back to normal. As for the touchscreen going crazy? It still happens and I'm running 7.1.0.355.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phill_UK View Post
    Huh? If I could reproduce it, then it would be a bug... but I can't!
    Some people have mentioned that BeBuzz might be causing the conflict. Never used it so can't comment.
    I think you are jumping to the conclusion that it's not an OS bug, in part because you are not following the correct steps. I'm asking what you're doing to validate that you don't have the bug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mzman View Post
    I think you are jumping to the conclusion that it's not an OS bug, in part because you are not following the correct steps. I'm asking what you're doing to validate that you don't have the bug.
    I know what the issue is... listening to music with headphones, pause and play again, volume is supposed to increase. It doesn't for me, and never has done on any OS. Believe me, I've tried to replicate this many times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phill_UK View Post
    I know what the issue is... listening to music with headphones, pause and play again, volume is supposed to increase. It doesn't for me, and never has done on any OS. Believe me, I've tried to replicate this many times.
    Well that's bizarre then. Do you play MP3s? What bitrate? Are they on device or on mediia card? What headphones?

    It's hard to imagine it is an app causing this. I don't have a lot of them, and very few that run full-time. Of those, I can't think of a single one that would affect the device's audio. I strongly suspect an OS or API problem, probably one affected by headphones. I don't develop for Blackberry OS, but it would be bizarre for an app to even have the potential to influence how the native media player adjusts volume.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mzman View Post
    Well that's bizarre then. Do you play MP3s? What bitrate? Are they on device or on mediia card? What headphones?



    It's hard to imagine it is an app causing this. I don't have a lot of them, and very few that run full-time. Of those, I can't think of a single one that would affect the device's audio. I strongly suspect an OS or API problem, probably one affected by headphones. I don't develop for Blackberry OS, but it would be bizarre for an app to even have the potential to influence how the native media player adjusts volume.

    I don't think it is app related problem.
    Let's try eliminate this option, I only have these apps installed:

    WhatsApp, Social Feeds, Facebook, Twitter, BeWeather, Chess, TuneIn, Tapatalk, WordPress. (Rest are BB default apps)

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    Of those, I share the following with you:
    WhatsApp (but installed after the bug)
    Social Feeds
    Facebook (default, never used)
    Twitter (default, never used)
    BeWeather

    So, the App theory would imply that either Social Feeds or BeWeather are tinkering with the headphone jack and audio settings, which is hard to believe.

    Phill, do you have these two apps installed?

    I am starting to suspect it comes down to the headphone model. Or perhaps some people have poor hearing.
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    I have this so called “bug” as well. I had it with a fresh OS install on .267, .342, & .402. I can’t remember if it was present on .163. The media player was horrible on .267, it freezes up and one time a song was skipping like a broken record player.

    Some of you may not have it and I didn’t pay attention to who had which device. But, maybe it is a 9930 thing vs. the 9900. Doesn’t seem plausible. But hey… just maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dustanh View Post
    Some of you may not have it and I didn’t pay attention to who had which device. But, maybe it is a 9930 thing vs. the 9900. Doesn’t seem plausible. But hey… just maybe.
    That's ruled out by estro22 (above). He is on a 9900 according to his header, and he has the bug. Which of the above apps do you have, if any?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mzman View Post
    Well that's bizarre then. Do you play MP3s? What bitrate? Are they on device or on mediia card? What headphones?

    It's hard to imagine it is an app causing this. I don't have a lot of them, and very few that run full-time. Of those, I can't think of a single one that would affect the device's audio. I strongly suspect an OS or API problem, probably one affected by headphones. I don't develop for Blackberry OS, but it would be bizarre for an app to even have the potential to influence how the native media player adjusts volume.
    I have a few MP3's but most of my music is wma format from my old iPod. No idea of bitrate. All media is on the memory card. Headphones are Bose Tri-port in-ear.

    Lots of apps integrate with the media player. Any that offer audible notifications for example.

    Quote Originally Posted by mzman View Post
    Of those, I share the following with you:
    WhatsApp (but installed after the bug)
    Social Feeds
    Facebook (default, never used)
    Twitter (default, never used)
    BeWeather

    So, the App theory would imply that either Social Feeds or BeWeather are tinkering with the headphone jack and audio settings, which is hard to believe.

    Phill, do you have these two apps installed?

    I am starting to suspect it comes down to the headphone model. Or perhaps some people have poor hearing.
    Just BerryWeather paid version, but that's not it.

    Do you both use BBM? I don't... and my hearing is fine
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    It could be the format. Perhaps WMA vs. MP3 is the issue. I saw one poster indicate his issue is even worse (volume changes spontaneously), and he was using FLAC.

    I use BBM. Did you uninstall it? How about Social Feeds - uninstalled?
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    If it's not an app conflict, then it could possibly be a media card issue... size? class? make?

    Mine's only an 8Gb SanDisk HC
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    Quote Originally Posted by mzman View Post
    It could be the format. Perhaps WMA vs. MP3 is the issue. I saw one poster indicate his issue is even worse (volume changes spontaneously), and he was using FLAC.

    I use BBM. Did you uninstall it? How about Social Feeds - uninstalled?
    That's another possibility... and yes, BBM and Social Feeds both shrunk out.
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    You really going to make me pull my battery?

    32Gb Sandisk HC. I strongly suspect that's not the issue either. If it was an issue with the data stream, I don't think pausing would trigger the issue, and the decoder would undoubtedly not respond to a data issue by playing at the wrong volume.

    I vote headphone model. Why not? After all, the media player detects headphones. Perhaps different impedance or something like that. Perhaps we should set up a poll of people with the bug and without, and rule them in or out?
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