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Really good stuff. Don't mistaken it for VOIP though.. not the same thing and your network allocated minutes still get billed even if calling through wifi/UMA only and Mobile is unchecked.Last edited by BlackB_G; 12-30-11 at 07:56 AM.
12-30-11 07:52 AMLike 0 - Phill_UKCrackBerry WiseguyWe've had this for over a year now in the UK.. in Orange. Just keep your Mobile Network settings to Wifi Prefered and everytime you connect to Wifi calls will be routed through UMA will be activated. No need to uncheck Mobile so that if Wifi signal drops the mobile network takes over automatically. Also, if you set it to Mobile Network Preferred the calls get routed through the mibile network but data etc still go through Wifi.
Really good stuff. Don't mistaken it for VOIP though.. not the same thing and your network allocated minutes still get billed even if calling through wifi/UMA.
The way Orange UK charge for UMA is also completely different to way North American carriers do, as it's often free there.12-30-11 07:58 AMLike 0 -
Nothing different.. The idea behind UMA is to boost your signal so you have better call quality/no dropped calls and data services in an area where service is sketchy. It does not save you any money in respect to phone calls (but will on data obviously).Last edited by BlackB_G; 12-30-11 at 08:06 AM.
12-30-11 08:03 AMLike 0 - Phill_UKCrackBerry WiseguyDude.. who said anything about an older blackberry? I use a Curve 9360 on OS7 so nothing old bout the handset. Also.. trust me.. he is on Wifi but you can still see it shows the network name. If you do not have any minutes or make any calls that are chargeable you will get charged.
Nothing different.. The idea behind UMA is to boost your signal so you have better call quality/no dropped calls and data services in an area where service is sketchy. It does not save you any money in respect to phone calls (but will on data obviously).
The 9360 uses UMA via a chip in the device, the 9900 has no such chip and uses Wifi Calling via an integrated app in OS7.1
The main difference between UMA and Wifi Calling, is that if you make a phone call on WiFi and walk out of range while on the call you will drop the call. The app is not made to switch over to 3G/4G seamlessly like UMA does.12-30-11 08:23 AMLike 0 - Totally different.
The 9360 uses UMA via a chip in the device, the 9900 has no such chip and uses Wifi Calling via an integrated app in OS7.1
The main difference between UMA and Wifi Calling, is that if you make a phone call on WiFi and walk out of range while on the call you will drop the call. The app is not made to switch over to 3G/4G seamlessly like UMA does.
And for the record...from Wikipedia - "This was followed shortly by T-Mobile US on June 27, 2007.[9] T-Mobile's service, originally named "Hotspot Calling", and rebranded to "Wi-Fi Calling" in 2009, allows users to seamlessly transfer from the T-Mobile cellular network to an 802.11x wireless network or T-Mobile HotSpot in the United States."
and according to T-Mibile:
""Both implementations work with our Wi-Fi Calling for Business and Wi-Fi Calling for Government solutions. For the customer, the implementations are virtually the same with many of the features and functionality identical. The primary differences are the following:"
"For the OEM, the software implementation provides more flexibility, easier in-the-field upgrades and cost effectiveness."
"For the customer, the software implementation saves battery life as it turns off the cellular radio when on a Wi-Fi connection. When it does this, however, the device does not “seamlessly” hand off between cellular and Wi-Fi."
In other words, the new Bold 9900 will not employ hardware-based UMA for Wi-Fi calling, like the Bold 9700/9780 and other earlier Wi-Fi-calling-enabled BlackBerrys. Instead, it will use a Wi-Fi calling application, and as a result, the device will not be able to transfer calls initiated on a Wi-Fi network over to the cellular network, or vice-versa, like predecessor BlackBerry devices. This probably won’t be too much of an issue for most users, but heavy Wi-Fi calling users could certainly miss UMA and the network-to-network call handovers it enables."
Seems to be the same thing rebranded except hardware UMA is a better implementation that software Wifi Calling.. I suspect even if you use the T-Mobile software WiFi Calling option and keep the Mobile network also ticked it might switch to the mobile if wifi drops (I could be wrong).Last edited by BlackB_G; 12-30-11 at 09:20 AM.
12-30-11 08:31 AMLike 0 - I see you turned your Mobile Network off. Let me know how it works with both the WiFi and Mobile Network on. With both of them on if you hit the menu key while on a contact you will see Call Using -> Mobile or WiFi.12-30-11 11:51 AMLike 0
- Very glad to hear that they decided to at least provide the WiFi calling application in the OS, though nothing can compare to the hardware in the old BBs. I will sorely miss the ability to start the conversation within the bounds of my home and continue it along my way to the destination. However rare this ocurrence may have been, the difference will be noticable.12-30-11 03:38 PMLike 0
- thanks for posting that screen shot. you may have just tipped the scales for me in my decision to go with a 9900...12-30-11 04:24 PMLike 0
- Dude.. who said anything about an older blackberry? I use a Curve 9360 on OS7 so nothing old bout the handset. Also.. trust me.. he is on Wifi but you can still see it shows the network name. If you do not have any minutes or make any calls that are chargeable you will get charged.
Nothing different.. The idea behind UMA is to boost your signal so you have better call quality/no dropped calls and data services in an area where service is sketchy. It does not save you any money in respect to phone calls (but will on data obviously).12-31-11 12:11 AMLike 0 -
- This is my first Blackberry! It's only a Curve 8530 but I love it! But I need to get a better network than crappy Virgin Mobile! My Skype will not work!12-31-11 12:52 AMLike 0
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