- There is a nice 19 page thread on the subject right here on the first page of this subforum:
http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...onfirm-635630/
Happy reading!DawgMan likes this.08-08-11 02:28 PMLike 1 -
Drawbacks are poor closeup shots less sharp details than auto focus. However, the Bold will have a closeup mode that may improve on this through software tricks.DawgMan likes this.08-08-11 02:30 PMLike 1 -
- The following is an example of the type of quality one can expect from RIM's "new" flagship business smartphone, the 9900 / 9930.
http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...ml#post6548840
The follow examples show what the RIM products of yesteryear can produce....
...This is a real problem.08-08-11 03:14 PMLike 0 - The following is an example of the type of quality one can expect from RIM's "new" flagship business smartphone, the 9900 / 9930.
http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...ml#post6548840
The follow examples show what the RIM products of yesteryear can produce....
...This is a real problem.Michelle Haag likes this.08-08-11 03:25 PMLike 1 - No need trying to pump some sense out there. I have concluded that no matter what people will complain. Imagine if it had an autofocus camera? Oh the horror, that is so 2010 technology. Everyone is going to EDOF cameras. RIM is so behind...I'm not getting this device.....
You just can't win.
Now, Verizon Wireless I command you to release this phone!!!!UrbanGlowCam and Michelle Haag like this.08-08-11 03:29 PMLike 2 - This has all made me happier with my 9650.... since discovering that the autofocus had "scenes" including "closeup".
I'm using my digital camera all the time to make papder copies or "scans" and then go through a roundabout method of getting them on the computer and sent out.
Now, I see that my 9650 takes perfectly acceptable closeups even in questionable lighting. I can use my phone to snap it, send it, save it, drop box it.... perfect! Then, I trash the original document leaving me with no need to lug folders around.
That's a big deal. Painful to think that this dreamy 9930 (I really want it) lacks the capacity to do this.08-08-11 03:32 PMLike 0 - It's a freakin camera. Did people not buy the PlayBook because it didn't have auto focus or the iPad 2 because both its cameras suck? No. The resolution is great enough where you will be able to take a pic further back and be able to view the resulting text full sized on a pc or zoomed in on the device just fine.08-08-11 03:36 PMLike 0
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...If you can interpret two sentences out out of the EDOF picture.
...You've done something no one else has been able to do.
Are you sure you didn't confound the 9650 picture with the EDOF one?
The EDOF shot is this one http://forums.crackberry.com/attachm...0000028_cr.jpg
Point being you don't need to zoom the 9650 shot at all......
...Now, imagine trying to take a pic of rock chips on a w/shield or paint scratch such as one would need for a damage report.
...My 9650 has been doing a fine job of those types of tasks for over a year now.
...Why is it an alien concept I would expect the new bold to be at least as good as the year old phone I've been using???
Originally Posted by UrbanBlowCamSecond, I think a better shot can be done than that. Then there is also the closeup mode we have yet to see in action. Lastly, most professionals that make copies of documents use scanners or copy machines for the best quality. Yes, new camera phones do take fairly good shots but imo, nothing compares to a 300 dpi scan. I'm glad you are making people aware of this but you seem to be blowing this way out of proportion.
This apologetic of ; go by a real camera OR just use a scanner aptly demonstrates WHY RIM is loosing market share like an elephant seal looses it's flesh by a Great White Shark.Last edited by pythons; 08-08-11 at 03:44 PM.
08-08-11 03:38 PMLike 0 - This has all made me happier with my 9650.... since discovering that the autofocus had "scenes" including "closeup".
I'm using my digital camera all the time to make papder copies or "scans" and then go through a roundabout method of getting them on the computer and sent out.
Now, I see that my 9650 takes perfectly acceptable closeups even in questionable lighting. I can use my phone to snap it, send it, save it, drop box it.... perfect! Then, I trash the original document leaving me with no need to lug folders around.
That's a big deal. Painful to think that this dreamy 9930 (I really want it) lacks the capacity to do this.08-08-11 03:39 PMLike 0 - This has all made me happier with my 9650.... since discovering that the autofocus had "scenes" including "closeup".
I'm using my digital camera all the time to make papder copies or "scans" and then go through a roundabout method of getting them on the computer and sent out.
Now, I see that my 9650 takes perfectly acceptable closeups even in questionable lighting. I can use my phone to snap it, send it, save it, drop box it.... perfect! Then, I trash the original document leaving me with no need to lug folders around.
That's a big deal. Painful to think that this dreamy 9930 (I really want it) lacks the capacity to do this.
...How would you use the scanlife APP on an EDOF camera, etc, etc, etc?08-08-11 03:46 PMLike 0 -
Then, by all means tell me what the document says...
The EDOF shot is this one http://forums.crackberry.com/attachm...0000028_cr.jpg
Readable and so is the other one even though the hand was not steady when the shot was taken. I wear glasses so maybe that is why I can see both of those images that you posted.
And seriously. Your over use of an ellipsis defeats the purpose of it being used at all.Last edited by flyersfan76; 08-08-11 at 03:53 PM.
Michelle Haag and Bu3bdo like this.08-08-11 03:48 PMLike 2 - Then, by all means tell me what the document says...
...If you can interpret two sentences out out of the EDOF picture.
...You've done something no one else has been able to do.
Are you sure you didn't confound the 9650 picture with the EDOF one?
The EDOF shot is this one http://forums.crackberry.com/attachm...0000028_cr.jpg
Point being you don't need to zoom the 9650 shot at all......
...Now, imagine trying to take a pic of rock chips on a w/shield or paint scratch such as one would need for a damage report.
...My 9650 has been doing a fine job of those types of tasks for over a year now.
...Why is it an alien concept I would expect the new bold to be at least as good as the year old phone I've been using???
The point is that the general business user NEEDS ( not wants ) their smartphone to be able to take a detailed shot such as an individual can NOW DO with a blackberry 9650 or 1st Generation Storm.
This apologetic of ; go by a real camera OR just use a scanner aptly demonstrates WHY RIM is loosing market share like an elephant seal looses it's flesh by a Great White Shark.08-08-11 03:52 PMLike 0 -
Also, I don't see old Curves with their 2.0 MP edof cameras having issues scanning BBM barcodes.Last edited by UrbanGlowCam; 08-08-11 at 04:08 PM.
08-08-11 04:05 PMLike 0 - I can read every image that has been posted in this thread so far. The image you just linked to is different than what you displayed in post #10 yet I can still read them both perfectly fine. Would your work require you to use scans like that as a reference or are you framing them on the wall?
..The point made was that the camera is of a significant lesser quality on the new Bold.
...Than it was on previous models & if you prefer to ignore this fact so be it.
Originally Posted by UrbanGlowI never said using a scanner was a requirement. The 9900 will be plenty sufficient to do it. But even with an iPhone that takes magnificent photos, it is not IDEAL over a scanner for a professional, high quality scan. When one wants to take professional photos of their paintings or design work, do they take a picture with their smartphone? No, they take the time to use another medium for a more clear display be it SLR camera, high quality scanner, etc.
People who use their phones for business don't need to take landscape shots of trains or kids in culverts - they need to be able to take a clear shot of an RMA, product keys for software and often times DOCUMENTS. RIM left a turd in the bed on this one and I think you even realize it.08-08-11 04:26 PMLike 0 - [QUOTE=pythons;6549876]If you can read figure 3.1 and 3.2 on the EDOF shot more power to you...
..The point made was that the camera is of a significant lesser quality on the new Bold.
...Than it was on previous models & if you prefer to ignore this fact so be it.
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No no. I definitely don't mean to ignore this. There are compromises for sure. But there are also benefits to it as well. I think while you personally have taken a hit from the drawback and it is understandable for your situation. Hopefully the camera outperforms our expectations.08-08-11 04:35 PMLike 0 - Michelle HaagI work here.As was pointed out, there is a lengthy discussion regarding this already. Please keep the conversation in one place.
(And for what it's worth, I could read all of the text in the images posted as well, so I don't see your point. It's a cell phone camera, sheesh people.)08-08-11 04:36 PMLike 0
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