[Nasir Jones]

or is this just a myth?

[Ben1232]

As I said to you recently Nasir. Yes !

Read the OS update / leaks - threads. Its like downloading one big app.

2mb apps need a reboot let alone something 130 times its size.

[MobileMadness002]

Thanks for enlightening the world. So for the past 5 years I have been doing it totally wrong. I call bull.

[BigBadWulf]

Necessary no, helpful yes.

[OniPod]

I have never pulled my battery after an up/downgrade. It's all about preference, if pulling the battery makes you feel better or helps you think that it will make your browser snappy, then by all means, go ahead. It will not hurt anything.

[dustanh]

Necessary no, helpful yes.

Yep... Agreed. It is more out of habit for me.

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[bimmerdriver]

I have never pulled my battery after an up/downgrade. It's all about preference, if pulling the battery makes you feel better or helps you think that it will make your browser snappy, then by all means, go ahead. It will not hurt anything.

This is my opinion exactly. I have never pulled the battery on an upgrade. I went several months without pulling the battery once, because I didn't think there was any need to do so and also because I have an Otterbox Commuter on my phone, which makes pulling the battery a PITA.

The only reason I pulled the battery recently was because the compass would not calibrate. After pulling the battery, the compass did calibrate, so there was a noticable benefit.

I get the impression it's an urban legend that the OS needs numerous battery pulls to "settle in" after an upgrade. I haven't noticed the slightest change in performance or battery consumption during the initial days after an OS upgrade.

[Ben1232]

Thanks for enlightening the world. So for the past 5 years I have been doing it totally wrong. I call bull.

You're very welcome.

[Ben1232]

Necessary no, helpful yes.

Thanks BigBadWolf. That's the best way someone could have put it.

[Ben1232]

Anyway bk on topic. I have read here somewhere 3 blackberrys ago to do batt pulls after an OS update. If it works or if it doesn't, if its the sneeky placebo effect at work again or not. I have done them as I also know that new OS's have to settle in regarding battery performance etc.

Is that fair ?

[dtango]

I never pulled my battery out once in the 6-7 months I had it.

[Chrysalis1156]

I pull my battery just to clear out the cobwebs & regain memory. I haven't had a single problem with my 9930 so I'm just gonna keep on doing what I'm doing.

[bimmerdriver]

Anyway bk on topic. I have read here somewhere 3 blackberrys ago to do batt pulls after an OS update. If it works or if it doesn't, if its the sneeky placebo effect at work again or not. I have done them as I also know that new OS's have to settle in regarding battery performance etc.

Is that fair ?

How do you "know" that the OS has to "settle in"? Every time I've upgraded my 9900 (5 times since I got it), I haven't noticed any "settling in" and I haven't had to do a single battery pull, except the one time I noted previously regarding the compass. I think people believe the OS has to "settle in" so that's what they see and some people believe they have to help the OS "settle in" by pulling the battery several times so that's what they do. Like Oniberry said, if pulling the battery makes you feel like you're doing something useful, by all means, pull the battery. If you want to make it really special, pour a glass of scotch and light up a cigar.

[Ben1232]

How do you "know" that the OS has to "settle in"? Every time I've upgraded my 9900 (5 times since I got it), I haven't noticed any "settling in" and I haven't had to do a single battery pull, except the one time I noted previously regarding the compass. I think people believe the OS has to "settle in" so that's what they see and some people believe they have to help the OS "settle in" by pulling the battery several times so that's what they do. Like Oniberry said, if pulling the battery makes you feel like you're doing something useful, by all means, pull the battery. If you want to make it really special, pour a glass of scotch and light up a cigar.

I read the OS update threads. The running joke that keeps showing itself (is usually after a few posts) "how is the battery life" people retort by saying how do we know its too early to tell. "Give the OS to settle"

Are the only people who don't read these now posting here for goodness sake.

Don't shoot the messenger !

[olblueyez]

alt+shift+del will reset your phone, so the answer is no, you do not have to physically pull the battery.

After you install an OS it the phone will restart on its own and ask permission for reboots when you install some apps.

Battery pulls are a myth and only necessary when the phone locks up and becomes unresponsive.

Sent from my BlackBerry 9900

[Ben1232]

alt+shift+del will reset your phone, so the answer is no, you do not have to physically pull the battery.

After you install an OS it the phone will restart on its own and ask permission for reboots when you install some apps.

Battery pulls are a myth and only necessary when the phone locks up and becomes unresponsive.

Sent from my BlackBerry 9900

Does a alt shift del (soft reboot) do the same as a battery pull (hard reboot) ?

[spencerdl]

I've never read anything official that a battery pull is necessary after a OS update, but I always do.....probably more out of habit then anything.

[Ben1232]

I've never read anything official that a battery pull is necessary after a OS update, but I always do.....probably more out of habit then anything.

Me neither. You are now my new best friend !

[Phill_UK]

Does a alt shift del (soft reboot) do the same as a battery pull (hard reboot) ?

A double soft reset equals a hard reset.

[Ben1232]

A double soft reset equals a hard reset.

Thank you Phill, I didn't know that.

The answer to my question was no though.

Thumbs up, Phill

[spencerdl]

A double soft reset equals a hard reset.

Hummm, never knew that.......thanks for the info.

[Phill_UK]

I've never actually tried a double soft reset, but I read about it here... http://crackberry.com/index.php?q=bl...ow&cb_mobile=0

[Pete6]

I've never actually tried a double soft reset, but I read about it here... http://crackberry.com/index.php?q=bl...ow&cb_mobile=0

I think that this is basically BS. <Alt><RShift><Del> (soft reboot) reboots the phone in exactly the same manner as a battery pull does except for the fact that whilst a soft reboot resets the system software and most of the hardware, a battery pull will cause (force) all the hardware to be reset to zero as well.

This is a small point, it's true but there may be registeres in the USB or other parts of the phone that the software does not reset whilst the OS is on its way back up after a soft reboot.

I have never proved this but I know that this happened with PC hardware <Ctrl><Alt><Del> vs a power off reboot back in the old days so maybe, just maybe it holds true for a BlackBerry.

Does this matter? I doubt it. I cannot remember the last time I did a battery pull. I do soft reboots only rarely. My phone gets rebooted enough by "The phone needs to be rebooted after <insertappnamehere> has finished installing/uninstalling."

[dustanh]

A soft reset is not the same as a battery pull. I have had issues where a battery pull fixed an issue and a soft reset did not fix the same issue.

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[Phill_UK]

I think that this is basically BS. <Alt><RShift><Del> (soft reboot) reboots the phone in exactly the same manner as a battery pull does except for the fact that whilst a soft reboot resets the system software and most of the hardware, a battery pull will cause (force) all the hardware to be reset to zero as well.

This is a small point, it's true but there may be registeres in the USB or other parts of the phone that the software does not reset whilst the OS is on its way back up after a soft reboot.

I have never proved this but I know that this happened with PC hardware <Ctrl><Alt><Del> vs a power off reboot back in the old days so maybe, just maybe it holds true for a BlackBerry.

Does this matter? I doubt it. I cannot remember the last time I did a battery pull. I do soft reboots only rarely. My phone gets rebooted enough by "The phone needs to be rebooted after <insertappnamehere> has finished installing/uninstalling."

Hi Pete, long time no see! Nice to see the 'voice of reason' back on here. Hope life is treating you well?