1. xanadome's Avatar
    I've just never seen a pencil eraser that small LOL.

    If it was intentional or wasn't, I think the plastic squares over the contacts on the battery was probably smart because they might've known people would put the batteries in their pockets possibly with loose change or keys and they might not have wanted the metal to come in contact with the contacts. Or say, women putting spare batteries in their purses with many other things loose that might contact the metal. But I don't know just a theory.
    Hahah, I was not too precise, eh? :-)

    I actually measured my pencil eraser and it was 5mm dia. It's a most commonly used pencil eraser. The one contained in my mechanical pencil has actually 3mm dia eraser.
    Re the recess of the contact, I am sure it is just the contact place holder for the cheapest assembly. That way, there is no need to precisely cut the metal contact. A thin molded plastic is just fixing those contacts. But what do I know? It is just my guess. I cannot think mfr ever put any additional effort to put money in that cheaply assembled battery :-).
    As for putting battery with loose metal etc, I NEVER EVER do that for the precise reason you mentioned. I seldom carry spare batteries, but when I do, I wrap it with plastic wrap, paper or small plastic bag etc. I never expose its contacts to other metallic objects. Inadvertent short circuiting might cause all sorts of troubles from just draining of juice to fire.
    The recess is not at all deep enough in the first place to avoid any contact with other metals when mixed with them in pocket or other small compartment.
    03-20-17 06:07 PM
  2. xanadome's Avatar
    http://forums.crackberry.com/attachments/blackberry-bold-9930-9900-f235/419927d1490051071-9900-resurgence-popularity-deoxit-pen-jm1.jpg
    What a great looking battle scarred battery it is!
    03-20-17 06:10 PM
  3. uxWare's Avatar
    Sorry for being dense but what's "winh**"?

    I'm all ears on ANYthing RPN!

    winhex not an RPN calc, but a hex-editor
    I self-censored , as I understand this method to find ser/numbers is banned here.
    Anyway , there is a generic J2ME RPN calc, a bit not easy to work with link -> Calc - Java Calculator: Scientific, Statistical, Financial, Programmable, Graphing, RPN
    03-20-17 06:10 PM
  4. xanadome's Avatar
    In general, those felt tip pens do pretty good job but I still sometimes get a plastic, or even wooden toothpick involved. Sometimes wrapped with paper towel. Or? Paper can be pretty abrasive, also. BUT, like I said, JM1s are consumables for me. Fwiw.

    LOL, to tell the truth, lazy me actually used the tip of paper clip to actually scrape off dark deposits.

    Like you said, it's just poor little battery that you won't use for too long a time, and I have 6 extra sets of brand new ones that I accumulated one way or the other. Even if the gold plating was scraped off, I do not think it will cause too much of a problem. Like you said, it's just a throw-away battery.
    03-20-17 06:16 PM
  5. idssteve's Avatar
    What a great looking battle scarred battery it is!
    Haha... Poor thing has likely shared pocket space with change, keys, pocket knives, etc... As you pointed out, ANYthing metal risks a short. AND shorted Li-ions are SERIOUS business! I generally keep them well segregated from pocket metals but when you're working with dozens of others, all sharing from a communal stash of JM1s... Never know.

    Overall, we've been VERY lucky and no "in pocket thermal runaways". Lol.

    One coworker did once experience an in-phone "thermonuclear runaway" ... Lol. Possibly from a "pocket damaged" JM1??? He felt the heat against his face during a call, quickly told the client he'll call back in 3 minutes and used his pocket screwdriver to pop out the smoking JM1 onto the concrete plant floor. Where it continued to release all the smoke left in it. Lol. That area of the plant was cleared of personnel and thoroughly ventilated while "trained" guys cleaned it up. The hideous odor was still quite strong when I came on shift hrs later. That black scar still marks the site. Lol.

    That coworker reportedly popped in his spare JM1 and called the client back in under 3 minutes. As promised. Lol.

    I DO agree, however, that these batts really aren't designed to endure sharing pocket space with typical pocket items. That meltdown might have easily left a hideous scar on a thigh, if it happened in pocket! Given the energy density packed in the modern marvels, it's certainly something to respect.
    03-20-17 06:41 PM
  6. Nguyen1's Avatar
    This is probably Steve's subject, but let me chime in. I use pencil eraser to clean these points for the longest time I remember since I was kid. Just touch the tip and gently jiggle erasers. Eraser is actually harsh (I think) so I use it very gently, just enough to remove any "dirt" or grime. As to the battery part, which is slightly recessed, eraser still works but some kind of coarse cloth might be better. But then, there is always specially formulated electrical contact cleaner solution, which I believe Steve uses (he mentioned it a couple of times in his posts). I believe those gold plating on contacts are so thin that aggressive use of abrasives will easily remove the gold plating. But so far, this method worked every single time. Just use it very gently. Just a touch of it is probably enough to remove dirt.
    Pencil eraser worked very well with the old Nintendo cartridges, too.

    The Guide is definitive. Reality is frequently inaccurate.
    03-20-17 06:45 PM
  7. idssteve's Avatar
    Pencil eraser is certainly the good reliable standard. Safe, too. Eraser on mechanical Pentel fits nicely.
    03-20-17 07:05 PM
  8. David Tyler's Avatar
    ...Passport's a great device. THE flagship of BB10. As 9900 still represents THE flagship of BBOS.
    True -- I love my Passport SE, and it's my "daily driver;" but as you wrote a couple of posts ago, Steve, it's hardly a one-hand device.

    There are other approximations to the 9900, and I've mulled over grabbing a Classic while I can still find one -- but the "ol' 99" is a unique experience. I use it almost every day for one thing or another, and it's hard to think about putting it in a drawer for anything else!
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    03-20-17 09:31 PM
  9. kb7sqi's Avatar
    Thanks for your post and details of the miscellaneous apps that you are using with your 9900.

    I'm very interested in the Cloud Explorer app as I hadn't appreciated that it was possible to access G drive.
    Could you expand a bit on its capabilities?

    Similarly, I'm pleased to hear that Podtrapper is working for you.
    Did you recently purchase that from BBW? I was a bit cautious about paying for that app as there's no evidence of activity on the developers website for several years.
    CloudExplorer for OneDrive/Google Drive both work fine on my 9900. They look/work identical, but only for the respected service. I've used them to copy files back & forth w/ no problems. I even had two-factor authentication setup on my accounts. I'm just getting off work, but in the morning I can post a few screenshots if you like. :-)

    As far as Podcaster goes, I loaded the latest version straight from the website & if you click on the "Purchase" link on the website you'll see this:

    PodTrapper is no longer supported
    Use the following key to register it: 1943BFF87134

    So download the latest version from:

    VersatileMonkey OTA Downloads

    and enjoy! I still have to manually add the RSS feeds to the app, but it's been working fine so far. Hope that helps! Take care.

    Steve, K4SQI
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    03-21-17 12:49 AM
  10. kb7sqi's Avatar
    Wow!!! Interesting, and I was wondering about Spotify on the 9900 because I did DL it to the 99 but it just works so good on the iphone. Most of my apps are purely "social." Facebook and Twitter are still great and I don't miss the inbox for messages on the native FB app because I can just run desktop browser version, notifs even work for that. BBM was always great and Tune-in as well. I am just on the free version of TuneIn and it's great just off the 9900 but for some reason when I pair my Blackberry VM-605 I have some "Bitrate" issues. But no idea if that is SIM related. It shouldn't be I would assume because TuneIn is meant to run off wifi as well as data.
    I guess I am sort of in your boat now Shuswap, I use the 99 around the house because I lost Whatsapp and AP news the last time I swapped sims and that "miffed" me a bit."

    I LOVE the Screen Dim app I found because I find the lowest BB brightness setting of 10% way too bright, and now I can go to almost black if I want.

    I'm going to stick with Spotify because you can find pretty much anything. Also there was a great article on Appy-Geek yesterday about how it is their first choice for best music app because chance are if you want a song you should find it. Also because even after 4 months, some brand new full albums get put on Spotify for free. With the exception of holdouts like Garth Brooks and Taylor Swift who pulled their music supposdly, because they weren't being paid there.



    -sent from a beautiful Bold 9900
    I've noticed several times when playing music via Bluetooth on my 9900 it'll stutter depending on what's going on in the background. While using headphones, I haven't had that problem. Today I picked up Baamboo Player Premium w/ a couple of Skins. Spent a couple of hours jamming & it didn't miss a beat. I'll give it a shot w/ Bluetooth tomorrow & let you know how it works. I also spent some more time using Spotify. It worked well while streaming several albums as well. I have a month to decided if I want to keep using it. ;-)

    As far as TuneIn Pro goes, I usually buy it simply because I hate ads. LOL. Take care & again thanks for all the input in this thread. I've really enjoyed my 9900 since I picked it up.

    Steve, K4SQI
    03-21-17 12:56 AM
  11. kb7sqi's Avatar
    Mine didn't work at first either. If I remember correctly, all I had to do was go to settings, choose location, and enter a US postal code. I chose a Seattle zip code, since it's nearby.
    I'll have to give it another shot then! Thanks for the info! :-)

    Steve, K4SQI
    03-21-17 12:58 AM
  12. Ralph Morgotch's Avatar
    It does OK. See photo. Not great but the phone contacts themselves aren't anything resembling full width either. I've also been guilty of scraping with metal in a "do or die" pinch. Sometimes just gotta do what you gotta do. Lol.

    Problem is the gold plating is very thin and gold is very soft. Scratches thru the gold plating will expose base material (Cu?) to oxygen and potential corrosion. I have access to literally hundreds of JM1s and consider them consumable supplies. (NOT for tax purposes, tho. Lol) Even so, a conductive protectant like Deoxit (and others) can help prevent oxidation of exposed surfaces.

    In general, those felt tip pens do pretty good job but I still sometimes get a plastic, or even wooden toothpick involved. Sometimes wrapped with paper towel. Or? Paper can be pretty abrasive, also. BUT, like I said, JM1s are consumables for me. Fwiw.
    Holy Man Steve that looks like the most used battery I have ever seen in my life hahaha! Mine look brand new in comparison

    BTW I just did a wifi call in Facebook messenger with a buddy who lives in the same building as me and it was very clear BUT every 10 seconds or so a word or two of his would cut out and it was pretty annoying. I remember that issue with BBM wifi calls when I actually did try it, but not often.

    Yeah I don't think I won't be buying any special battery terminal cleaner for such a minor issue but maybe my contacts are pretty clean compared to yours

    -sent from a beautiful Bold 9900
    03-21-17 01:43 AM
  13. Ralph Morgotch's Avatar
    Hahah, I was not too precise, eh? :-)

    I actually measured my pencil eraser and it was 5mm dia. It's a most commonly used pencil eraser. The one contained in my mechanical pencil has actually 3mm dia eraser.
    Re the recess of the contact, I am sure it is just the contact place holder for the cheapest assembly. That way, there is no need to precisely cut the metal contact. A thin molded plastic is just fixing those contacts. But what do I know? It is just my guess. I cannot think mfr ever put any additional effort to put money in that cheaply assembled battery :-).
    As for putting battery with loose metal etc, I NEVER EVER do that for the precise reason you mentioned. I seldom carry spare batteries, but when I do, I wrap it with plastic wrap, paper or small plastic bag etc. I never expose its contacts to other metallic objects. Inadvertent short circuiting might cause all sorts of troubles from just draining of juice to fire.
    The recess is not at all deep enough in the first place to avoid any contact with other metals when mixed with them in pocket or other small compartment.
    Ah ya that does make sense. Although I will probably blow myself up when I try cleaning the contacts again with a screwdriver

    -sent from a beautiful Bold 9900
    03-21-17 01:46 AM
  14. Ralph Morgotch's Avatar
    I've noticed several times when playing music via Bluetooth on my 9900 it'll stutter depending on what's going on in the background. While using headphones, I haven't had that problem. Today I picked up Baamboo Player Premium w/ a couple of Skins. Spent a couple of hours jamming & it didn't miss a beat. I'll give it a shot w/ Bluetooth tomorrow & let you know how it works. I also spent some more time using Spotify. It worked well while streaming several albums as well. I have a month to decided if I want to keep using it. ;-)

    As far as TuneIn Pro goes, I usually buy it simply because I hate ads. LOL. Take care & again thanks for all the input in this thread. I've really enjoyed my 9900 since I picked it up.

    Steve, K4SQI
    Ya definately I would like to know about how well ANYTHING Bluetooth works with the 9900 because I seem to be having some minor issues.

    TuneIn Pro, how much is PRO and is it a one time payment or like Spotify where it is $10 every month?

    Thanks for contributing as well!

    -sent from a beautiful Bold 9900
    03-21-17 01:50 AM
  15. Ralph Morgotch's Avatar
    Pencil eraser worked very well with the old Nintendo cartridges, too.

    The Guide is definitive. Reality is frequently inaccurate.
    I could never properly get into the cartridges for my Atari 2600 contacts or the contacts inside the console. Just impossible to clean and there were so many of them. They appeared completely BLACK from what I recall but the games still played. My buddy bought it from me as he has a Massive gaming collection including 3 PONG systems from the 1970's and that Atari still works today!!!!!

    -sent from a beautiful Bold 9900
    03-21-17 02:14 AM
  16. idssteve's Avatar
    Holy Man Steve that looks like the most used battery I have ever seen in my life hahaha! Mine look brand new in comparison

    BTW I just did a wifi call in Facebook messenger with a buddy who lives in the same building as me and it was very clear BUT every 10 seconds or so a word or two of his would cut out and it was pretty annoying. I remember that issue with BBM wifi calls when I actually did try it, but not often.

    Yeah I don't think I won't be buying any special battery terminal cleaner for such a minor issue but maybe my contacts are pretty clean compared to yours

    -sent from a beautiful Bold 9900
    Won't pass for "New, unused" ?? Lol. We definitely torture test equipment. Especially JM1s. Lol. I preach to my team about these poor things sharing pocket space with metallic items but... lol.

    Interestingly, coworkers all agree that some of the roughest looking JM1s are the ones we grab from chargers on the breakroom table... the battle scars seem to indicate that they have been working. Too often, I grab a pretty looking "new" one just to have it fall on its face. Go figure.

    We have a recycle jar, also in the breakroom, where misbehaving JM1s collect. Some, in that jar, are frighteningly abused. A couple are visibly bent! Fully 1/4, or more, of them look to be brand new! Lol.

    Again, in the name of safety, all should keep in mind that JM1s should NOT share pocket space with keys, change, etc. !!!


    As to voip, do you think the lost words might be sharing bandwidth with a large email
    attachment, or something?
    03-21-17 05:54 AM
  17. SathBerry's Avatar
    Hey I too use blackberry Bold 9900 since 1.5 years and its a super coll device. it looks iconic when i carry this out with the leather pouch.

    -Sathish
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    03-21-17 06:35 AM
  18. mushroom_daddy's Avatar
    CloudExplorer for OneDrive/Google Drive both work fine on my 9900. They look/work identical, but only for the respected service. I've used them to copy files back & forth w/ no problems. I even had two-factor authentication setup on my accounts. I'm just getting off work, but in the morning I can post a few screenshots if you like.
    Screenshots would be great if time permits but either way thanks for the information provided
    03-21-17 08:27 AM
  19. mushroom_daddy's Avatar
    It does OK. See photo. Not great but the phone contacts themselves aren't anything resembling full width either. I've also been guilty of scraping with metal in a "do or die" pinch. Sometimes just gotta do what you gotta do. Lol.
    I couldn't understand why there was so much interest in cleaning those battery contacts, but now I see that photo and the state of your JM1 – I get it!
    Probably shouldn't be surprised, idsteve does have a proven track record for rough handling his 9900's

    My JM1's are just as squeaky-clean as the day they arrived but I do 'handle with kid gloves' – can't hep worrying that sooner or later there will not be any JM1s left to replace a damaged battery
    03-21-17 08:37 AM
  20. babugaru1's Avatar
    Whatsapp beta worked well on 9900!


    I have couple of questions

    1. Anyway to see desktop version of site in default browser

    2. How to see gifs posted in tweets in twitter
    03-21-17 08:46 AM
  21. Shuswap's Avatar
    CloudExplorer for OneDrive/Google Drive both work fine on my 9900. They look/work identical, but only for the respected service. I've used them to copy files back & forth w/ no problems. I even had two-factor authentication setup on my accounts. I'm just getting off work, but in the morning I can post a few screenshots if you like. :-)

    As far as Podcaster goes, I loaded the latest version straight from the website & if you click on the "Purchase" link on the website you'll see this:

    PodTrapper is no longer supported
    Use the following key to register it: 1943BFF87134

    So download the latest version from:

    VersatileMonkey OTA Downloads

    and enjoy! I still have to manually add the RSS feeds to the app, but it's been working fine so far. Hope that helps! Take care.

    Steve, K4SQI
    That's the right way to abandon software! I paid the $10 for this app a few years ago, and I'm glad I supported the developer, given how the he let the app out to everyone in the end. There's an android version as well, for those who are interested. I'll have to update the entry in the "without BIS" and "working apps" threads.

    Sent from my BlackBerry 9900 using Tapatalk
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    03-21-17 09:27 AM
  22. Shuswap's Avatar
    For me the Bold 9900 has became both a home & work device lately. After a few more app purchases, I've been able "lessen" my need to carry my Priv or a BB10 device. I always have to carry my iPhone 6s which is my "work" phone, but for the most part, I can now almost do everything on my 9900. Here's a list of some of the apps I've been using the last few weeks on my 9900:

    Cloud Explorer for OneDrive/Google Drive
    VNC
    Forseti RDP Windows Client
    BBSSH/Rove Mobile SSH
    Tapatalk
    Google Authenticator for all my 2FA accounts
    Mobipocket/Kindle App for E-Books
    PodTrapper
    WhatsApp
    Facebook/Twitter/LinkedIn apps
    iSilo
    eWallet sync'ed to my desktop
    KeePass
    PhotoStudio Pro
    BBM of course!
    Police Radio Scanner
    TuneIn Radio Pro
    AT&T Navigator
    eBay

    Just to name a few. I also picked up Trillian last night for $0.99 in the app market. It works much better than IM+ Pro btw for Instant Messaging. It actually stays connected. :-) Two downfalls. The font is small. You can't change it, and I couldn't create my "Trillian" account on my 9900. I created it on my Priv & then was able to log in w/ the account on the 9900. After that, all my IM accounts started right up. I need to be able to use Google Talk, AIM, & ICQ. Trillian has worked great so far & for me well worth the $1! Now, I couldn't get the AP News app to work since you mentioned it & I tried UberSocial last night & wasn't able to log in to my twitter account as well. I'll give it a shot later. Also since you guys mentioned Spotify a while back, I finally re-added Premium to my account. It's been ages since I used Spotify. I loved it back in the days I used my webOS devices. I loaded it up on my 9900 & all my old playlists came right up! I played some music for a couple of hours the other night, but I don't think I'll keep using the service. I've already loaded up 20+ gigs of music on my sdcard & TuneIn Radio Pro takes care of the rest really. :-)

    As a side note, I did a couple of sim swaps last week. First was to try out the latest BBM update on Android. Everything updated just fine & the app does work well, but after using BBM on the 9900, I just enjoy using the app as much. Secondly, I also moved over to my Classic for 48 hrs. It'd been a few months since I used my Classic as a daily driver. I found BBM slow/sluggish on the device. Chats were slow to load up, I was missing several Channel updates, etc. My Classic is running the latest 10.3.3.x w/ a clean install. I also noticed some of my email accounts were slow to get email. So, my sim card went back in the 9900 & that's where it's staying. I get the added bonus of being able to get my work email over BIS and everything else is working 100%. Hope everyone has a great week! Take care!

    Steve, K4SQI
    Thanks for the list! Looks like I have a number of apps to add to the "working apps" thread this weekend!

    Sent from my BlackBerry 9900 using Tapatalk
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    03-21-17 09:32 AM
  23. kb7sqi's Avatar
    Screenshots would be great if time permits but either way thanks for the information provided
    Here's some screenshots for you. As you can see, it's pretty basic, but does the job. You can create directories, delete them, copy/paste files, etc. All the basic stuff works which is all that matters to me. :-)

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    I also worry about the cost of apps on the 9900 & the lack of support by some developers, but if it's something I know I can get use out of, I'll take the risk. LOL. Hope that helps. Take care.

    Steve, K4SQI
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    03-21-17 10:49 AM
  24. kb7sqi's Avatar
    Ya definately I would like to know about how well ANYTHING Bluetooth works with the 9900 because I seem to be having some minor issues.

    TuneIn Pro, how much is PRO and is it a one time payment or like Spotify where it is $10 every month?

    Thanks for contributing as well!

    -sent from a beautiful Bold 9900
    I'll take some time to do more testing w/ a couple of Bluetooth speakers I have here in the office. TuneIn Radio Pro for the 9900 was $4.99 if I remember correctly. It's a one time payment. On Android/iOS it $9.99. It also allows you to save stuff to your phone/sdcard if I remember correctly. They do have a premium service which is a monthly cost, but I've never used it. Like you, if I don't have something already loaded on my sdcard or I just want to listen to something different, I'll turn on TuneIn Radio Pro. There's several stations from around here locally that I like ot listen on occasion. So it's worth it to me. Take care.

    Steve, K4SQI
    03-21-17 10:55 AM
  25. kb7sqi's Avatar
    Hey I too use blackberry Bold 9900 since 1.5 years and its a super coll device. it looks iconic when i carry this out with the leather pouch.

    -Sathish
    Welcome to the group! :-) I've only had my 9900's a little over a month now. Long time BB10 user but recently decided to give the 9900 a try. It's been a lot of fun seeing what I can get it to do compared to BB10/Android/iOS which I also have multiple devices of each platform. It's ironic in some cases it that BBOS 7.x outshines BB10 in several areas to me. Not that I want anyone to think I'm hating on BB10. LOL. I love all my BB10 devices as well. I even break out one of my PlayBook's on occasion. Take care.

    Steve, K4SQI
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    03-21-17 11:00 AM
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