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    Default Is the 9900 a lot faster then it gets credit for?

    So recently I bought a PlayBook and one thing soon became apparent, the 9900 opens apps A LOT faster then the PlayBook, I'm talking 5+ seconds faster to open Facebook

    So last night I was visiting a friend that has an iphone 3GS with the latest OS and sure enough any app that we had in common the 9900 would open faster. I'm talking with apps completely closed not left in the background. I was surprised to see even the browser opening a lot faster, we cleared the cache and set both to open google when opened. The 9900 was a good 2-3 seconds faster.

    Those with multiple platforms please try it and report back, this is going to be interesting.

    PS I'm slightly worried about BB10 now judging it by the PlayBook.
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    This is silly.
    Why r u comparing 3GS to 9900?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nashstruck View Post
    This is silly.
    Why r u comparing 3GS to 9900?

    That's all I had at hand, PlayBook and 3GS and the 9900 was faster then both. Maybe others can pitch it against a 4s or high end Android.
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    I heard a commercial yesterday promoting the bolds fast browser.
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    I just tried it agains an LG Optimus dual core android and every single app, including the browser opens faster on the 9900.
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    This could be interesting... anybody have a comparison between a 9900 and an iPhone 4s or a flagship andoid device (ie. Galaxy Note, Droid Razr etc..)
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    I've tested a few apps on my 9900 vs my 4S and I agree the 9900 is very fast. It isn't faster than the 4S, though, and I think this is a fair comparison, as they are the same age. But except for a several seconds longer delay loading the facebook updates and the fact that my twitter no longer works (!), I don't think the 9900 has anything to be ashamed of.

    I decided to be nice on the 9900 and not compare browsers, as the 4S is very fast and the 9900 is... not But other than that, I think my very unscientific test turned out fine for the 9900.
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    if find no lag time at all with any tasks i do on my 99, and if another platform opens an app .0022 seconds faster who really cares hahaha
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    I have the 9930 and the Samsung Galaxy Note (as a mini tablet).. what i can report is that speedtest results on my wifi at home shows 17mbps for the SGN and 5Mbps for the 9930... I KNOW my wifi is a bottleneck as other SGN users have reported up to 50Mbps d/l speeds.

    * The BB used compressed data so can show an initial screen faster than the SGN, however the SGN is require to show more than three times the amount of information (1280*800 Vs 640*480).
    * using a simple m.yahoo.com as a target the BB pops open about 0.5s faster but is still loading at this time... So the BB would appear to be snappier, however if your criteria is the full load of the page then the SGN loads the full page about 2secs quicker..

    to the op.. given that the the BB has 1.2GHz processor, while the PB has a 1GHz processor and has to download 2x the data for full screen you SHOULD get snappier performance with BB... its nothing to do with o.s. and all to do with amount of data
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    good tests guys, thanks for posting the results. I'm also interested in what the OP says when comparing the 9900 to the PlayBook.

    Any results there?
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    Just to be clear and to make it a fair test, make sure the apps are not left in the background, from what i could see on my friends phones both the iphone and android leave the apps sleeping in the background if you open them once.

    Also it can be any app, it doesn't have to connect to the internet, like calendar, contacts etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisy520 View Post
    good tests guys, thanks for posting the results. I'm also interested in what the OP says when comparing the 9900 to the PlayBook.

    Any results there?
    Absolutely every app opens a lot faster on the 9900, sure the transitions are nice but in reality they take time and in the end the app opens 5+ seconds later then on the 9900
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    for me as a whole package, yes it is fast. i love the slick scrolling up/down webpages on the stock browser. esp with the trackpad
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbz1960 View Post
    I heard a commercial yesterday promoting the bolds fast browser.
    Yep same here, its the first time I heard it. They mention how fast the 'super fast browser' is and say to go to yesblackberry.com which takes you to a mobile site(if you do it from your phone, which I assume most people would do since its a radio ad)...its a radio campaign thing RiM started?
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    Ok, I gave in and testet the 9900 browser performance vs the 4S

    On average, the 4S is almost twice as fast as the 9900. Both in displaying the first part of the page, and in finishing off the complete page.

    I have a feeling my service provider has a very slow BIS connection. Is that possible? Especially when downloading from app world, the speed is extremely slow. Don't know if that is normal?

    Btw all my tests are of course done on freshly rebooted devices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbcdk View Post
    Ok, I gave in and testet the 9900 browser performance vs the 4S

    On average, the 4S is almost twice as fast as the 9900. Both in displaying the first part of the page, and in finishing off the complete page.

    I have a feeling my service provider has a very slow BIS connection. Is that possible? Especially when downloading from app world, the speed is extremely slow. Don't know if that is normal?

    Btw all my tests are of course done on freshly rebooted devices.
    Sorry, you got it a little wrong, we're not debating the speed of browsing but the speed of apps oppening, including browser.
    BTW clearing cache does cripple the BB a little as it makes use of the cached data to reload a webpage faster and using only a fraction of the data used to load the page for the first time.

    PS sounds like your carrier is doing something dodgy, why don't you try them on wifi?

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    For reference, it takes my 9900 browser 2 seconds to open and load google.com and after another 2 seconds the pop up under the search bar appears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by belfastdispatcher View Post
    Sorry, you got it a little wrong, we're not debating the speed of browsing but the speed of apps oppening, including browser.
    I know. But it's the only app I could think of, where a direct speed comparison of anything but the loading itself could be tested.
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    PS sounds like your carrier is doing something dodgy, why don't you try them on wifi?
    I am doing the tests at home, so both devices run on wifi. But even on wifi the data comes in ever so slowly. Don't know enough about BB and BIS to diagnose the issue yet, but I have tried deleting and then redownloading Facebook. That's a 3MB download and it takes 2.5 minute to download from the moment the progress bar appear, using a 20mbit connection. Is this normal? On the iPhone the same download would take less than 5 seconds.

    Your google test takes about twice as long here...

    EDIT: Tried on 3G data. Same download time for Facebook, so the bottleneck has to be app world or my BIS server.

    Oh, and sorry for (kinda) off topic. Just been wondering about this since I got my 9900 and when we started talking about speed today, it had to come up
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbcdk View Post
    I know. But it's the only app I could think of, where a direct speed comparison of anything but the loading itself could be tested.

    I am doing the tests at home, so both devices run on wifi. But even on wifi the data comes in ever so slowly. Don't know enough about BB and BIS to diagnose the issue yet, but I have tried deleting and then redownloading Facebook. That's a 3MB download and it takes 2.5 minute to download from the moment the progress bar appear, using a 20mbit connection. Is this normal? On the iPhone the same download would take less than 5 seconds.

    Your google test takes about twice as long here...

    EDIT: Tried on 3G data. Same download time for Facebook, so the bottleneck has to be app world or my BIS server.

    Oh, and sorry for (kinda) off topic. Just been wondering about this since I got my 9900 and when we started talking about speed today, it had to come up
    That sounds waaayy slow, you might be on your carrier's naughty list lol, it's not normal, I would give them a ring.

    That's how my 9900 would work on EDGE.
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    App world can be painfully slow at times like any server can be. All depends on how many are accessing etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbz1960 View Post
    App world can be painfully slow at times like any server can be. All depends on how many are accessing etc.
    Yeah, you can't judge download speeds by Appworld, for a start apps are downloading and installing at the same time.

    Try an mp3 file in the browser.
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    Can't believe nobody said this yet. Ok, App World can download fast, it's the installation that takes time since it's done on secure memory. Don't know the whole workings of it but I can tell you that when I downloaded GTalk OTA, it took seconds vs the minute or so through App World, then there is the little hang on the install, but even the download of an app has hangs during the install every couple seconds because it can take a certain amount of data at a time. I can and have downloaded files at over 1MB/s. But yes, it also takes a bit more time because of compression over the BIS.
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    So judging by the lack of people rushing in to disprove my theory, I now proclaim the Bold 9900 the fastest smartphone at oppening apps
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    Quote Originally Posted by belfastdispatcher View Post
    So judging by the lack of people rushing in to disprove my theory, I now proclaim the Bold 9900 the fastest smartphone at oppening apps
    okay ... you're joking right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoreoneone View Post
    okay ... you're joking right?

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    No I am not, the 9900 opens apps faster then Android, I tried Browser set to open google, facebook, twitter and contacts, the 9900 opened them faster.

    Opened from fully closed, not from when left in the background. Try it if you can.

    Opening contacts took the 9900 barely a second, Android(LG Optimus dual core) took 3 seconds.
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