[dwadwa]

At first I was falling in love with Torch... but after a few try-outs I found the slider form factor is not as efficient as a QWERTY phone because for QWERTY phone you can just grab and type... without sliding out the keyboard.

I found that the trackpad is more useful than the touchscreen, more accurate and more easily maneuverable.

With all the being said, Torch is a great device.

Just wondering when 9780 will be out so I can compare the two.


Will 9780 even be released this year? Because my contract expires in Nov.

[mansandem]

At first I was falling in love with Torch... but after a few try-outs I found the slider form factor is not as efficient as a QWERTY phone because for QWERTY phone you can just grab and type... without sliding out the keyboard.

I found that the trackpad is more useful than the touchscreen, more accurate and more easily maneuverable.

With all the being said, Torch is a great device.

Just wondering when 9780 will be out so I can compare the two.


Will 9780 even be released this year? Because my contract expires in Nov.

I'm pretty sure it will be released BEFORE November, being that it's August now, and the phone is ALREADY being sold in CANADA. But don't knock the Torch 9800, it's a great phone as well. At the moment its RIM's BEST touch screen phone, which happens to be a qwerty as well.

[dwadwa]

I'm pretty sure it will be released BEFORE November, being that it's August now, and the phone is ALREADY being sold in CANADA. But don't knock the Torch 9800, it's a great phone as well. At the moment its RIM's BEST touch screen phone, which happens to be a qwerty as well.

Hmm. It's great but just not efficient for me...

Before November? Are you talking about ATT because I am on ATT currently?

[mansandem]

Hmm. It's great but just not efficient for me...

Before November? Are you talking about ATT because I am on ATT currently?

Well, even if it came out on T-mobile first, it would not be much longer before it came out on AT&T. Maybe a week, two weeks the most.

[FrankCM]

At first I was falling in love with Torch... but after a few try-outs I found the slider form factor is not as efficient as a QWERTY phone because for QWERTY phone you can just grab and type... without sliding out the keyboard.

I totally agree... I like the Torch very much... but I think I still prefer the original BlackBerry form factor!

I'm just curious to see the OS 6.0 on a non-touchscreen device! I think there are too many "active areas" in the new 6.0 home... and for sure the new browser will be better on the touchscreen version (no pinch to zoom on the 9780! )

[tedzone]

I'm pretty sure it will be released BEFORE November, being that it's August now, and the phone is ALREADY being sold in CANADA. But don't knock the Torch 9800, it's a great phone as well. At the moment its RIM's BEST touch screen phone, which happens to be a qwerty as well.

IT'S ALREADY BEING SOLD IN CANADA?????????????????
Where t f is that?? I"M in Canada, I want one, badly!!
Who's selling it in Canada?

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[Dejavuxx]

I totally agree with u, I was obsessed with the torch prior to launch but decided based on other slider reviews to just opt for a standard blackberry without a touchscreen...
Reasons:

1. It has only 2 of the features I want (OS6 and 5mp cam)... That said I just hate, an personally want to kill the person who took away that side convenience key.

2. It still has bold2 parts in it... I mean after almost a year this is all RIM an conjure up!... c'mon!

3. the slider mechanism is cool, but it still has moving parts... the less moving parts the better the phone.

4. Who took away the other type of led flash (the one on the storm) I mean that thing flashes on my g/f phone (Gemini) an I only see a slight trail of the light. I have berry buzz on my 8900 an when it flashes it almost light my room up... so sleeping in the night with vibrate on I can know wen i miss a call.

5. It could have least come with a higher res screen.

6. Apart from the touch screen and OS6 its basically a bold 9700, i don't count the sliding part as both phones has a physical keyboard.

7. Battery, why does these touch screen don't come with a bold battery?
why cant we get at least 2days from the new touchscreens? These batteries are too small!! They keep getting smaller and smaller.


That said not until RIM comes out with new hardware ie; Processor, RAM, high-res screen and memory... [camera is OK at 5mp]. I will stick to this form-factor! The 9780 upgrade is the winner in my book.

So glad i didn't upgrade to the 9700 last year...

[dwadwa]

I totally agree... I like the Torch very much... but I think I still prefer the original BlackBerry form factor!

I'm just curious to see the OS 6.0 on a non-touchscreen device! I think there aren't too many "active areas" in the new 6.0 home... and for sure the new browser will be better on the touchscreen version (no pinch to zoom on the 9780! )

True... but you got the "i" and "o" shortcuts to zoom in and out, with the super trackpad (much better than the ball) I guess it would be just fine to navigate in the browser =D.

2. It still has bold2 parts in it... I mean after almost a year this is all RIM an conjure up!... c'mon!

3. the slider mechanism is cool, but it still has moving parts... the less moving parts the better the phone.

4. Who took away the other type of led flash (the one on the storm) I mean that thing flashes on my g/f phone (Gemini) an I only see a slight trail of the light. I have berry buzz on my 8900 an when it flashes it almost light my room up... so sleeping in the night with vibrate on I can know wen i miss a call.

But you gotta know the 9780 internal hardware is basically the same as 9800....

And yes, the LED light is dim on 9800.

[Brandon26pdx]

Candybar form factor all the way for me...whether they're touch or Qwerty. I hate phones that flip or slide.

[Average Joe]

6. Apart from the touch screen and OS6 its basically a bold 9700, i don't count the sliding part as both phones has a physical keyboard.

will stick to this form-factor! The 9780 upgrade is the winner in my book.

So glad i didn't upgrade to the 9700 last year...

I agree....after test driving and even owning a Torch for a short bit, I see it as just an updated 9700 with a touchscreen.

As far as being glad you didnt upgrade to a 9700, well, you could have, and then when the 9780 is released, you could get one at the off-contract price, and sell your 9700 to cover around half if not more of the cost....essentially getting it for the cost of an early upgrade phone ($275ish out of pocket). Of course you can probably get one for like $99 if youre eligible for a full upgrade when it is released...

[dwadwa]

I agree....after test driving and even owning a Torch for a short bit, I see it as just an updated 9700 with a touchscreen.

As far as being glad you didnt upgrade to a 9700, well, you could have, and then when the 9780 is released, you could get one at the off-contract price, and sell your 9700 to cover around half if not more of the cost....essentially getting it for the cost of an early upgrade phone ($275ish out of pocket). Of course you can probably get one for like $99 if youre eligible for a full upgrade when it is released...

Am thinking getting a Torch first then trade it with 9780.. What do you think? How much do you think a used mint Torch can sell?

[Average Joe]

Am thinking getting a Torch first then trade it with 9780.. What do you think? How much do you think a used mint Torch can sell?

Depends I guess...ebay is starting to get flooded with them...Im sure youll be able to recoup most of the cost that you pay though...theres ALWAYS someone who cant get one off contract for whatever reason, and will be willing to pay....just beware that if you sell it on ebay, you will most likely have to pay $50-$55 for the listing when its all said and done (they charge 9% of the final selling price, with a maximum of $50).

[dwadwa]

Depends I guess...ebay is starting to get flooded with them...Im sure youll be able to recoup most of the cost that you pay though...theres ALWAYS someone who cant get one off contract for whatever reason, and will be willing to pay....just beware that if you sell it on ebay, you will most likely have to pay $50-$55 for the listing when its all said and done (they charge 9% of the final selling price, with a maximum of $50).

=(

And I gotta unlock it to make it more appealing...

Sad.

I hope the 9780 will be snappier without the touchscreen...

[mohawk apple]

IT'S ALREADY BEING SOLD IN CANADA?????????????????
Where t f is that?? I"M in Canada, I want one, badly!!
Who's selling it in Canada?

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i wanna know where its being sold in canada too

[Average Joe]

9780's for sale at GSMHookup.com - Vancouvers best source for the latest UNLOCKED GSM Cell phones and Accessories!

[ryanlrobinson]

How sketchy is this GSM hookup? RIM hasn't even officially announced this phone yet, neither has any carrier, so how did this company get a hold of them? The site has no specs on any of the phones, no online orders, one (the 9105) doesn't even have a price. I predict these may be some kind pre-release device, sure, but not legitimately. I'll wait for it to be officially announced somewhere.

[dcgore]

The only thing stopping me from buying one is i can't put insurance on it.

[e.ms]

Candybar form factor all the way for me...whether they're touch or Qwerty. I hate phones that flip or slide.

amen dude. i've never had a flip or a slider in my life actually... and i'm not really planning on it

[duck383]

i wanted a torch but the at&t exclusive turned me off besides i love my 9700 (os6 most likely not before my upgrade date in dec, according to cb forums i read today) the 9780 is looking better and better