Why does the NEW 9780 cost more then the OLD 9700 (Rogers)

**Jamesowenn** · 11-09-2010, 05:04 PM

So answer this i am with rogers and want a new phone checking out eather the 9780 or 9700 but the 9780 which is new cost less.

The 9700 is on no term 549.99
while the 9780 is no term 499.99

Why is it cheaper and does anyone know how much they will cost with rogers no contract after taxes thanks ?

**Last Resort** · 11-09-2010, 05:06 PM

Watch the unboxing vid on the main page, they show the receipt

**Jamesowenn** · 11-09-2010, 05:10 PM

I just tried he said 560 right ? I cant really understand why it would be cheaper ?

**hibanzai** · 11-09-2010, 05:55 PM

Cause even though it is a new phone, it's only an upgrade over the older model. Not quite ground braking in it's design nor hardware performance compared to the competition. My guess only.

**Rootbrian** · 11-09-2010, 06:25 PM

9780 is pretty much the same as the 9700, only it has:

-more memory
-higher MP camera
-OS 6 (or with some carriers and originally, OS 5)

The price should be the same as the 9700. If it's higher, don't buy it from that carrier.

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Matrix Leader · 11-09-2010, 08:52 PM

That doesn't make sense......they probably forgot to adjust the price tag of the 9700

**freethisberrydotcom** · 11-09-2010, 08:57 PM

Nope 9700 is being discontinued by most Canadian carriers. Telus has no more in stock.

Matrix Leader · 11-09-2010, 09:06 PM

9700 here in Dubai had a pricce increase from $435 USD to $544 due to the major lack of stocks and high demands on the phone!

I got mine for $476 from a local shop.

**rayzian** · 11-10-2010, 12:40 AM

the 9780 has no leather backing.. maybe you're paying for the leather on the 9700, lol

**UN4GTBL** · 11-10-2010, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by Jamesowenn

So answer this i am with rogers and want a new phone checking out eather the 9780 or 9700 but the 9780 which is new cost less.

The 9700 is on no term 549.99
while the 9780 is no term 499.99

Why is it cheaper and does anyone know how much they will cost with rogers no contract after taxes thanks ?

they haven't updated their prices i guess.

Originally Posted by Jamesowenn

I just tried he said 560 right ? I cant really understand why it would be cheaper ?

560 including taxes

**Valgi** · 11-10-2010, 10:17 AM

My two cents? They're trying to obtain more profit by selling the 9700s at a higher price than the 9780 since everyone's getting the 9780.

**Culex316** · 11-10-2010, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by Valgi

My two cents? They're trying to obtain more profit by selling the 9700s at a higher price than the 9780 since everyone's getting the 9780.

But why would anyone pay more for a phone with less memory/inferior camera?

**ilvhse** · 11-10-2010, 12:20 PM

I got my 9700 phone for free with T-mobile. I don't understand how a phone such as the 9700 or the latter even costs so much.. I mean its no super computer. My 9700 if I had to buy it would be worth about 50-100 bucks to me. I don't get how these barely internet worthy phones cost so much. Dont get me wrong I love my phone, but If I had to buy it for the prices you are posting I wouldn't even have one.

Thats why Ill never have an iphone (unless free) it cost $6.97us to make in china yet they charge $400 or whatever the price is. so ridiculous
please don't flame me

just my opinion

**NexUsandThem** · 11-10-2010, 01:15 PM

Flame on...^^^

**Phill_UK** · 11-10-2010, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by Rootbrian

9780 is pretty much the same as the 9700, only it has:

-more memory
-higher MP camera
-OS 6 (or with some carriers and originally, OS 5)

The price should be the same as the 9700. If it's higher, don't buy it from that carrier.

The 9780 has only ever run OS6... there have never been any OS5 builds for this device

**Phill_UK** · 11-10-2010, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by rayzian

the 9780 has no leather backing.. maybe you're paying for the leather on the 9700, lol

It has exactly the same faux leather battery cover as the 9700

**TheScionicMan** · 11-10-2010, 02:50 PM

I think it has to do with certain customer needs. Many companies will lock in on a certain model to support. They won't move onto another model until it has been tested/vetted, so the carriers kinda have them on the hook to buy more of the same devices until they take that next step. When the Tour was new, we needed a World phone for someone who was traveling. The Tour was priced at $499 while the 8830WE was priced at $549...

**JPM42** · 11-10-2010, 05:08 PM

I just got mine from Craigslist for $180 in close to mint condition. So far so good.

**rayzian** · 11-10-2010, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by Phill_UK

It has exactly the same faux leather battery cover as the 9700

oh, the 9780 unboxing video on crackberry didn't have the leather backing...

**Phill_UK** · 11-10-2010, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by rayzian

oh, the 9780 unboxing video on crackberry didn't have the leather backing...

I must admit it looks that way in Kev's vid, so I'm not sure if that's a Rogers thing, or just the lighting... but mine's certainly the same as the 9700

**AllanRosen** · 11-10-2010, 07:23 PM

Answer: developers are not developing apps for OS 6 because the customer base is not large enough. By lowering the price of the Torch, they are trying to encourage the switch to OS 6 which, in turn, will hopefully encourage app developers to develop apps.

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**rayzian** · 11-10-2010, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by Phill_UK

I must admit it looks that way in Kev's vid, so I'm not sure if that's a Rogers thing, or just the lighting... but mine's certainly the same as the 9700

definitely must be a rogers thing, cheap bastards copping us canadians out!

**fusioncal** · 11-11-2010, 04:28 AM

Originally Posted by Jamesowenn

So answer this i am with rogers and want a new phone checking out eather the 9780 or 9700 but the 9780 which is new cost less.

The 9700 is on no term 549.99
while the 9780 is no term 499.99

Why is it cheaper and does anyone know how much they will cost with rogers no contract after taxes thanks ?

If I'm not mistaken there's this article back then that said RIM managed to cut the production costs for Bold 9780. That's why it is cheaper even with the upgrades.