Onyx in the field at at&t

[tranquil.forest]

Isn't AT&T the one coming out with a 4G network, or is that Sprint? If it is AT&T will it be compatible with the 4G network?

[amkls704]

Originally Posted by tranquil.forest

Isn't AT&T the one coming out with a 4G network, or is that Sprint? If it is AT&T will it be compatible with the 4G network?

It will not be 4G compatible, RIM isn't going to spend the money putting a chipset in a phone that, as of now, no carrier really supports.

Yes, Sprint will have a 4G network, as will AT&T and Verizon.

As for who will have one first, all of them like to be children and claim they will be, as far as I know, Sprint claims that in their commercials, but we'll see if they actually ARE the first to have a 4G network. Verizon has been working on LTE (4G) for a while, so we'll see who gets a 4G network up and running first. Don't expect it until 2010 (probably late) at the earliest.

[FloRidaSrt]

Obviously I don't have an onyx in front of me so I'm going by the comparison pics. But from the pics it looks like the screen is the same size as the bold? I think everone says the screen looks smaller is because the actual device is smaller. But it looks like RIM crammed a large screen by makinf the buttons and keypad smaller, and by making the lip/bezel smaller on the outside. Is it an optical illusion or maybe I'm just an [b][/b][b][/b][b][/b][b][/b][b][/b]? Phonegeek can you confirm this (the screen size not the ***** part ?

Thanks!!

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[phonegeek]

Originally Posted by the one and only M

Phonegeek

Does the battery door wiggle?

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Not in the slightest.

[JangoFat]

Glad to see the trackpad. Not so for the fake leather. Option to erase it?

[phonegeek]

Originally Posted by akatypes

any idea if it runs the old 3.6mbps 3G or the new 7.2 like the 3GS? i know its pointless right now but it would be good for later when the network supports it

Don't know and the network won't run it right now anyway so there is no way to test

Originally Posted by cmbkcaruso

I hate to back track but how bone headish of me. In my previous question I asked if the keyboard was the same or slightly larger than the 8900s. But what I meant to ask was if it's the same or slightly larger than the Tours. I realize you may have not been able to compare these two. I have played with the tour's key board and found it to be slightly cramped for my fingers, that's why I ask.

So I have several quality images back on page 4 I think. This will hopefully give you an idea on keyboard size. I haven't compared to the tour as it's a VZN phone that I don't see.

Originally Posted by OtakuGangsta

I cant wait too bad i just upgraded in may, guess i'll just have to use my employee discount to get it. I wonder how much AT&T will price it i hope around the same price or lower then the 8900.

I would be shocked if it is less than $299 w/ contract. $499 without would be my guess...

Originally Posted by zayragiselle

ok my question is...whats the camera resolution??

i hope it's at least 3.2megapixel....

It is 3.2MP and I tested it at the fair yesterday and it works quite well IMO.

[smurfette8202]

great report!!!! does the os come with the bbm 5.0? i cant wait for it to come out!

[mikeyg164]

Can't wait to hold one in my hands.

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[starfleet_k]

Could you do a photo compairison? one with bold and one with onyx?
also how fast dose it load photo's in the media app?
Thanks!!

[AP1618]

oh man I checked this thread like 30 times today.... I'm addicted...

[amkls704]

Originally Posted by phonegeek

Ok all I got some much better pictures of this...











PG

Nom nom nom!!! haha

Nice pics man! You're making me more excited for this. Why DOES it say Bold on the back?

[phonegeek]

Originally Posted by scotts11

so they could potentially get rid of the trackpad and put back the trackball?

As well as it works I would doubt it. CX is a lot closer to the RIM thinking than I but on the issue of bold being stamped on the back. I would be shocked to see that go away in the final release. "Usually" by the time we get the device in the field the outside of the device doesn't change...

Originally Posted by mortys11

look at the back !
i count 4 different material/finishes ???? WTF?
glossy plastic, matte plastic, leather, painted plastic....this is terrible

whats with all these parts too...how about a solid back or chasis? Bad fit and finish in my opinion.

have u ever seen a guy wear all black and none of the items match, thats what this reminds me of...rim better get serious and hire some real industrial designers....this thing stinks bad!

this is going right to colorware if i get one....shame on rim!

Ok so maybe I miss something here but usually RIMs first priority is function. You have some rubber around the edges and part of the back. The leather breaks up the design and adds depth, it also is a non slip surface. Personally I like the design but maybe I am weird.

Originally Posted by tranquil.forest

Isn't AT&T the one coming out with a 4G network, or is that Sprint? If it is AT&T will it be compatible with the 4G network?

Yes at&t will be deploying LTE, there are test markets being planned I am guessing 2010. Verizon is being aggressive with LTE launches planned for 2010 as well. As a network guy I don't consider Sprint's network plan a 4G solution but most others do so there you go.

Originally Posted by amkls704

It will not be 4G compatible, RIM isn't going to spend the money putting a chipset in a phone that, as of now, no carrier really supports.

Yes, Sprint will have a 4G network, as will AT&T and Verizon.

As for who will have one first, all of them like to be children and claim they will be, as far as I know, Sprint claims that in their commercials, but we'll see if they actually ARE the first to have a 4G network. Verizon has been working on LTE (4G) for a while, so we'll see who gets a 4G network up and running first. Don't expect it until 2010 (probably late) at the earliest.

Sprint will probably be first but to call it a network might be a stretch.

Originally Posted by FloRidaSrt

Obviously I don't have an onyx in front of me so I'm going by the comparison pics. But from the pics it looks like the screen is the same size as the bold? I think everone says the screen looks smaller is because the actual device is smaller. But it looks like RIM crammed a large screen by makinf the buttons and keypad smaller, and by making the lip/bezel smaller on the outside. Is it an optical illusion or maybe I'm just an [b][/b][b][/b][b][/b][b][/b][b][/b]? Phonegeek can you confirm this (the screen size not the ***** part ?

Thanks!!

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I will try to do a detailed compare tomorrow but I believe it is the same screen as the 8900 at least in size.

Originally Posted by smurfette8202

great report!!!! does the os come with the bbm 5.0? i cant wait for it to come out!

It is the new version of BBM.

[jcp007]

4G, no matter who has will probably be 2012. Between now then, AT&T may have acquired one of its competitors. If I were RIM, I would be more concerned about operational/functional issues. At this stage, any more external finishes would be costly to retool.

[jcp007]

Does the device have Doc To Go or any preloaded apps? Have you tested downloaded the latest BB App World and then downloading an app, hopefully a GPS app?

[amkls704]

Originally Posted by jcp007

Does the device have Doc To Go or any preloaded apps? Have you tested downloaded the latest BB App World and then downloading an app, hopefully a GPS app?

I was wondering that as well.

I'm assuming it'll have the trial or scaled down version of docs to go and if you want to be able to edit or anything, will you have to pay to upgrade it? Just curious...