Driftwood? Onxy?

**tmartz** · 07-27-2009, 05:47 PM

Whats the difference between the two, will it be like how the first gen curve like 8310,8320 like that just between tmo and att>? I dont think they would have a different name for the same device look aat the 83xx series they didnt have different names but they all had different features, same with the 8900 Tmobiles version has UMA and ATT's does not they didnt have different names and there on 2 different carriers

**tmartz** · 07-27-2009, 07:13 PM

anybody know and whens the expected release time

**GoT_BB** · 07-27-2009, 07:56 PM

Don't think there is a difference besides the carriers

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**Crucial_Xtreme** · 07-27-2009, 08:00 PM

People have their facts mixed up about the Driftwood. Its not what people think. Just have patience, more information will come soon.

**Joe91313** · 07-27-2009, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by Crucial_Xtreme

People have their facts mixed up about the Driftwood. Its not what people think. Just have patience, more information will come soon.

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yeah, people have been saying left and right that it's just an Onyx with UMA.

**stilett0s** · 07-28-2009, 01:46 AM

They are the same phone, though the Onyx is essentially an updated Curve, and has no UMA or WI-FI. From my understanding, the Driftwood is going to T-Mobile, and has a tentative September release date. It's meant to compete with AT&T's BB Bold. The Onyx is going to AT&T around the same time. I was going to upgrade to the 8900, but I'll wait it out and get the Driftwood instead. I hope they change the name by the release date.

**zelt000** · 07-28-2009, 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by Crucial_Xtreme

People have their facts mixed up about the Driftwood. Its not what people think. Just have patience, more information will come soon.

Crucial can you shed any info on the Driftwood that we haven't heard yet?

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**addictedtoblackberry** · 07-28-2009, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Crucial_Xtreme

People have their facts mixed up about the Driftwood. Its not what people think. Just have patience, more information will come soon.

cant wait for the juicy details CX =) im sporting the 8100 pearl so this will be a great upgrade

**Spawn12** · 07-28-2009, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by stilett0s

They are the same phone, though the Onyx is essentially an updated Curve, and has no UMA or WI-FI. From my understanding, the Driftwood is going to T-Mobile, and has a tentative September release date. It's meant to compete with AT&T's BB Bold. The Onyx is going to AT&T around the same time. I was going to upgrade to the 8900, but I'll wait it out and get the Driftwood instead. I hope they change the name by the release date.

Think your completely and utterly wrong there...its in no way shape or form an updated Curve...the onyx that is..its part of the Bold line up so will have 3G, Wifi and is similar to the Bold but probably a smaller, thinner version of the Bold.

Just waiting to see when its coming out as ill be getting the Onyx then the new better version of the Bold.

**DNRuffin** · 07-29-2009, 12:15 PM

The Onyx is an evolved Bold. I don't know what the Driftwood is but I hope it's also as evolutionary and awe-inspiring as the Onyx.

**BajanDude** · 07-29-2009, 12:30 PM

What exactly is the driftwood, i would like to get an onyx when I releases but I can't decide.....

**Brollic** · 08-03-2009, 11:54 AM

Isnt the the driftwood and the onyx the same just diffrent names someone said on another thread that t-mobile was naming it driftwood instead of Merlin/Onyx how true is this?

**tmartz** · 08-15-2009, 11:08 AM

I dont think there the same device at all, Details will be flooding soon im almost sure of it

**godzilla07** · 08-15-2009, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Crucial_Xtreme

People have their facts mixed up about the Driftwood. Its not what people think. Just have patience, more information will come soon.

I know I'm not going to get a thing out of you, but if the Driftwood is not a T-Mobile Onyx I won't be happy about that. Unless the Driftwood that's now being discussed is just an Onyx. I just want my QWERTY 3G BlackBerry for T-Mobile by the end of the year.

**andrewcjduong** · 08-16-2009, 05:38 AM

When the first driftwood was rumored. It was suppose to be a touchscreen device with a qwerty keyboard below it without any trackball or trackpad.

**parroman** · 08-16-2009, 09:34 AM

Now the confusion continues...driftwood or onyx...heard that onyx gonna have wifi and 3g.. is this not the case?

**JRCxyz** · 08-16-2009, 11:20 PM

Yes, the Onyx/Merlin will have both Wi-Fi and 3G. There shouldn't be any confusion as the above poster, parroman, says. The Driftwwod is the same as the Onyx but, as Crucial_Xtreme says, with UMA. Period.

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**parroman** · 08-24-2009, 08:24 AM

Best bet is to wait for them to release then you can get a full specs release and compare the two phones...for me i am going with the att simply because they put more into their coverage and the onyx would be the better phone for the area where i live...so i am gonna wait for my sleek sexy black onyx!!

**defcon3** · 08-24-2009, 10:00 AM

Patience is not a word in CB vocabulary... Speculation, guestimation, rumors, flaming - sounds so homey

TBZ said the difference has to do with battery and/or processor, as well as layout of the SD card slot. Could all this be related to who gets Onyx and who gets a Driftwood? For example, one being for the Americas market, the other for Europe?

Am I warm (or just hallucinating from high fever) lol

**OviFan** · 09-01-2009, 08:49 PM

what is UMA? i don't get what it is.

**tmartz** · 09-01-2009, 08:58 PM

Unlicensed Mobile Access Provides access to voice and data services over unlicensed spectrum technologies like Wi-Fi

**Crucial_Xtreme** · 09-30-2009, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by Crucial_Xtreme

People have their facts mixed up about the Driftwood. Its not what people think. Just have patience, more information will come soon.

Now, like I posted back in JULY, the Driftwood isn't what people thought it was. The pics Sal posted last night are of the Driftwood. As I said, it's not what people think, and people had their facts mixed up. It's EDGE version of Onyx.

**GJW** · 09-30-2009, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by Crucial_Xtreme

Now, like I posted back in JULY, the Driftwood isn't what people thought it was. The pics Sal posted last night are of the Driftwood. As I said, it's not what people think, and people had their facts mixed up. It's EDGE version of Onyx.

Why would tmo want yet another edge BB? Hopefully this doesn't imply that the rumors of Onyx being available on tmo are wrong!!!!!

**greatgoogly** · 09-30-2009, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by GJW

Why would tmo want yet another edge BB? Hopefully this doesn't imply that the rumors of Onyx being available on tmo are wrong!!!!!

This is indeed a MAJOR disappointment if it pans out that T-Mobile is about to put out yet another Blackberry without 3G. I can see 2 scenarios driving this:

1) T-Mobile is purposely trying to push their customers away from RIM and to Android Clique etc. They have all these Blackberry customers that are paying $19.99 and of that some of the $$ is going to RIM. Much better for T-Mobile's bottom line to make people switch away from the Blackberry since they would lose their grandfathered $19.99 and go to a more expensive $24.99 and of that $24.99 it all goes in T-Mobile's pocket with none being sent to RIM.

2) T-Mobile & RIM ran into the often rumored problems of getting 3G and UMA to play nice together. They were unable to resolve these issues and made the decision to keep UMA on the device and dump the 3G.

**OviFan** · 09-30-2009, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by Crucial_Xtreme

Now, like I posted back in JULY, the Driftwood isn't what people thought it was. The pics Sal posted last night are of the Driftwood. As I said, it's not what people think, and people had their facts mixed up. It's EDGE version of Onyx.

Wait, so those really weren't pictures of the Atlas? The phone in those pictures looked tiny compared to the Onyx! When is this phone supposed to be released(if anyone has heard anything)?