[xs11e]

If it's possible (and I'm almost positive it isn't!) I'd like to be able to switch between my Thunderbolt (an Android LTE phone) and my 9650, back and forth w/o having to get a new SIM every time.

Also, I took advantage of the doubled data VZW offered and now have 4Gb of data, I notice when I switch to the 9650 the data goes back to 2Gb.

I really want to switch back and forth because I miss my BB!

Is there any trick, scheme, anything that would allow this?

Currently, I do this:
Switch to the BB and VZW immediately kills my SIM card and changes my data back to 2Gb. When I want to go back to the T'Bolt I order a new SIM from the website and then stick in the spare SIM I managed to acquire, when the SIM I ordered arrives, it becomes my spare. So far, when I go back to the T'Bolt the data goes back to 4Gb but how long will that happen?

With all the changes in data plans and activation fees I'm now afraid to take a chance and I'm sticking with the T'Bolt but I really miss the BB... <sigh>

Any possible solution?

[kbz1960]

Since when did vzw start using a SIM? Is that an LTE thing?

[xs11e]

Since when did vzw start using a SIM? Is that an LTE thing?

Years back on World Phones for GSM use overseas and on all LTE phones.

LTE SIMS and GSM SIMS are different critters they're the same size and shape but used for different purposes.

[kbz1960]

Years back on World Phones for GSM use overseas and on all LTE phones.

LTE SIMS and GSM SIMS are different critters they're the same size and shape but used for different purposes.

Yes I know but the vzw network in the USA does not use a SIM or has that changed?

[xs11e]

LTE Phones require an LTE SIM to function on the VZW LTE network.

I need an answer to my question please, not requests for information readily available from Google, I'm sorry to be unkind but you're not helping.

[kbz1960]

LTE Phones require an LTE SIM to function on the VZW LTE network.

I need an answer to my question please, not requests for information readily available from Google, I'm sorry to be unkind but you're not helping.

OK thanks for that info as I didn't know in the USA that the LTE phones need a SIM on a cdma network. Now your 9650 surely does not so I don't know how you're going to handle that without a plan for it.

[Solidus433]

the VZW double data was for 4g phones only, at least thats how I read it, so the double data would not apply to your Bold, and thats why it would switch back. Also, in the US, I dont think you can use the 9650 on a sim card on Verizon as they are a cdma carrier and the 9650 is a cdma device also. If you were on ATT or T-Mobile then you could use it as a gsm phone however.

[xs11e]

the VZW double data was for 4g phones only, at least thats how I read it, so the double data would not apply to your Bold, and thats why it would switch back.

Thanks, that explains it, I must have missed that. I'm still wondering if I go from the BB back to the T'bolt will the 4Gb still be there or will I lose it? It worked before but that was before VZW's new data plans.

Also, in the US, I dont think you can use the 9650 on a sim card on Verizon as they are a cdma carrier and the 9650 is a cdma device also. If you were on ATT or T-Mobile then you could use it as a gsm phone however.

Correct but not relevant to my problem. What I want is to switch between LTE and non-LTE phones w/o voiding the LTE SIM and that seems impossible so far but..... I've seen work-arounds for almost every problem and I'm still hoping for one here.

FWIF, I don't know if this is true but a VZW CS person said later LTE devices CAN be switched with non-LTE device w/o canceling the SIM and the reason I can't is because the T'Bolt is an early LTE device. I doubt that's true, it makes no sense at all(???) and, as I said before, I'm afraid to try switching now because I don't know how the new data plans and activation fees will affect me if at all?

[Pete6]

I'll try to answer. As you probably know, a BlackBerry requires a special BlackBerry dataplan. This is a dataplan with an add-on for BlackBerry. This is not required for other phones.

It therefore seems reasonable that if yu have a BlackBerry dataplan for your BlackBerry, then other phones will be able to make use of the dataplan's normal features.

I have never tried this but I have heard it said here in Crackberry that a BlackBerry and an iPhone can share a dataplan but only the BlackBerry makes use of BOS and blackberry.net.

Clearly my answer is not a definitive and positive response but this is what I have heard.

More I do not know.

[xs11e]

I'll try to answer. As you probably know, a BlackBerry requires a special BlackBerry dataplan. This is a dataplan with an add-on for BlackBerry.

Correct. Switching from the T'Bolt to the BB on the VZW website automatically does the following:
1. Activates the BB.
2. Switched me to the BB data plan and
3. Cancels the LTE SIM in the T'Bolt.

If only item 3. (VZW canceling the LTE SIM) didn't happen I'd be fine and could switch back and forth w/o problem.

My objection is having to obtain a new LTE SIM every time I go back to the T'bolt and that's what I need a fix for. It's a matter of convenience, I have to order a new SIM (free) and wait for it to be delivered or got to a VZW store and have them give me one which costs gas, time and frustration as most VZW store employees don't know how to do that.

VZW admits that killing the LTE SIM when a non-LTE phone is activated is an unexpected bug in their software but seems unable/unwilling to fix it.

Who knows, maybe it is fixed now, it's been months since I've switched...

I'd try again, I miss my BB but what if I lose my 4Gb data or get hit with a fee?

Edit: I did try again, I did lose my 4Gb data, called CS, they're seeing if they can get it back for me.

It's obvious I'll have to leave VZW if I want to continue switching phones and I plain on continuing to switch phones.

[antheauxny]

Sounds like you need to just stick to one phone, lol.

Thank God I have Sprint. Switching
between BB & iPhone is easy with them.

Sent from my BlackBerry 9930 using Tapatalk

[xs11e]

Sticking to one phone isn't an option, I usually switch between 3 and 4.

Thank God I don't have Sprint, for me they're the most expensive of all carriers and their coverage isn't good in areas that I need coverage.

[eve6er69]

Even a non verizon will prove difficult with switching between blackberry phones and non blackberry phones. With the bis plans even on att I have to call up and request them to activate a reg 3gb plan so that my standby android can use data. If I don't do that all I will be able to do is talk and text.

[xs11e]

I've never tried AT&T and won't for various reasons but with T-Mobile switching meant moving the SIM from Android to BB, unchecking the data box on the website, checking the BIS box and then refreshing my browser (no idea why that was necessary?) and it was done. Switching back was just as easy.