Engineering Screen on Bold - Page 9

synwars · #**121** 04-20-2009, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bennyph

For any 4.6 OS build, the only way to change any option in the Engineer Screen is to highlight that option, click on BB Menu key, choose "Change Option" to change to any desired option. For 5.0 OS build so far, you can easily select any option with trackball. Hope that helped and clarified

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Yeeeaaah, I got that much... but for that particular screen there is no "Change Option" available to activate a drop down screen. I have 3 options: "Set BandMode" "Disable Uplink 8PSK" "Close". Nothing more.

synwars · #**122** 04-20-2009, 11:34 PM

That's why I say that there is probably another option in the E-screen that is enabling me to select or change the 3G band. Keep in mind I DO have that option for 2G/Edge... Strange.

Croe · #**123** 04-21-2009, 12:16 AM

Not sure if I am misinterpreting you, but this screen on this post IS the screen you change the 2G/3G option...click change option and the bandmode drop down with give you all the options to enable or disable the freqs required for 2G or 3G....there is also the UTRAN/GERAN option discussed earlier you can try.

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Originally Posted by synwars

That's why I say that there is probably another option in the E-screen that is enabling me to select or change the 3G band. Keep in mind I DO have that option for 2G/Edge... Strange.

digitalb0y · #**124** 04-21-2009, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Croe

Not sure if I am misinterpreting you, but this screen on this post IS the screen you change the 2G/3G option...

I don't think this works if you're not debranded. If you turn the radio off and make a change, it changes back the second you turn the radio back on. But if the radio is on and you change something on the Cell Info screen, you get a java error. At least I do, on both 5.0.0.90 and 4.6.0.266. The only option that works for me is the PLMN Selection screen, and the radio's gotta be enabled.

dictoresno · #**125** 04-21-2009, 02:03 AM

if i click that i get an error.

dictoresno · #**126** 04-21-2009, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by thedirective

are there any other setting we can discuss besides 3G, GPS and Bluetooth in the engineering screen. there must be other things to play with.
surely hey guys?

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the engineering screen is more for diagnostics, information and current configuration data. not meant for changing things. there are some things that can be edited, but unil i get a chance to really play with it, what we have learned so far is really our limitation. honestly, from years of experience, hex and seem editing are where the real changes happen. the escreen only "unlocks" some things that are actually adjustable to the end user that are actually helpful. screw around too much in there, you may disable your phone or worst case, brick it.

Croe · #**127** 04-21-2009, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by digitalb0y

I don't think this works if you're not debranded. If you turn the radio off and make a change, it changes back the second you turn the radio back on. But if the radio is on and you change something on the Cell Info screen, you get a java error. At least I do, on both 5.0.0.90 and 4.6.0.266. The only option that works for me is the PLMN Selection screen, and the radio's gotta be enabled.

Strange. Works fine for me and I am not debranded. When I get a chance tonight I will post pics of radio on and off with no changes after I set the band.

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Croe · #**128** 04-21-2009, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dictoresno

the engineering screen is more for diagnostics, information and current configuration data. not meant for changing things. there are some things that can be edited, but unil i get a chance to really play with it, what we have learned so far is really our limitation. honestly, from years of experience, hex and seem editing are where the real changes happen. the escreen only "unlocks" some things that are actually adjustable to the end user that are actually helpful. screw around too much in there, you may disable your phone or worst case, brick it.

I respectfully disagree. They are called engineering screens for a reason. While there are diag and logging capabilities, there are many more tweaks you can make to your phone. You just have to be willing to research, test, document, and have NO FEAR!

My only problem is that everyone seems to want info given without doing anything themselves, then complain or keep asking more questions. If more than 4 or 5 of us would dive in, test, document and collaborate I would be more than willing to add to this discussion.

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synwars · #**129** 04-21-2009, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Croe

Not sure if I am misinterpreting you, but this screen on this post IS the screen you change the 2G/3G option...click change option and the bandmode drop down with give you all the options to enable or disable the freqs required for 2G or 3G....there is also the UTRAN/GERAN option discussed earlier you can try.

You must be, let me further explain.

When I select UTRAN&GERAN (3G & 2G) mode, I get the 3G "Cell information" screen where I CANNOT change the option of bandmode.

When I select UTRAN (3G) only mode, I again get the 3G "Cell information" screen where I CANNOT change the option of bandmode.

When I select GERAN (2G) only mode, ONLY THEN am I given the option to change the bandmode.

In this current state, I can change the bandmode on a selected 2G network, but I cannot change the bandmode on the available 3G network.

Take a look at the difference:

Yours:

Mine:

synwars · #**130** 04-21-2009, 12:01 PM

Whhhoooop whoop whoop, what the heck. Ok update update. Very strange, I can get the option for changing the bandmode ONLY if I do the following:

Deactivate radio. - Main
Disable UTRAN. - PLMN
Select Manual Mode. -PLMN
Change bandmode. - Cell Info...
Set bandmode. - Cell info...
Activate radio. - Main
Go to cell info screen quickly, now I watch as the cell automatically changes back from GERAN to UTRAN & GERAN mode, then I have the 3G screen in the "Cell info" screen and the option to change the bandmode. Only problem is now that I can't "set bandmode" because the radio has been activated. WTH?

Croe · #**131** 04-21-2009, 12:08 PM

Try turning all connections off from your app screen then go into the escreen and make the changes. Sounds like there is something on your phone that is auto enabling the radio.

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Originally Posted by synwars

Whhhoooop whoop whoop, what the heck. Ok update update. Very strange, I can get the option for changing the bandmode ONLY if I do the following:

Deactivate radio. - Main
Disable UTRAN. - PLMN
Select Manual Mode. -PLMN
Change bandmode. - Cell Info...
Set bandmode. - Cell info...
Activate radio. - Main
Go to cell info screen quickly, now I watch as the cell automatically changes back from GERAN to UTRAN & GERAN mode, then I have the 3G screen in the "Cell info" screen and the option to change the bandmode. Only problem is now that I can't "set bandmode" because the radio has been activated. WTH?

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synwars · #**132** 04-21-2009, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Croe

Try turning all connections off from your app screen then go into the escreen and make the changes. Sounds like there is something on your phone that is auto enabling the radio.

Well, it's not the radio activation that is messing up... It looks like whenever I make a change to the "Cell Info" or "PLMN Selection", as soon as I activate the radio, it immediately overrides my changes in the E-screen to match what is set on the App screen. This is the only option that I am having trouble with. I can change the voice channel, adjust the GPS settings, mess with the WiFi settings, but I can't change the bandmode or lock onto a particular cell tower. I wonder if this is Rogers specific... Maybe there is only one band available for 3G??? Talk about a fried noodle, I'm running out of ideas...

Croe · #**133** 04-21-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by synwars

Well, it's not the radio activation that is messing up... It looks like whenever I make a change to the "Cell Info" or "PLMN Selection", as soon as I activate the radio, it immediately overrides my changes in the E-screen to match what is set on the App screen. This is the only option that I am having trouble with. I can change the voice channel, adjust the GPS settings, mess with the WiFi settings, but I can't change the bandmode or lock onto a particular cell tower. I wonder if this is Rogers specific... Maybe there is only one band available for 3G??? Talk about a fried noodle, I'm running out of ideas...

Did you disable "blackberry network selection mode under plmn options?

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dStallion11 · #**134** 04-21-2009, 12:50 PM

What settings do any T-Mobile users have? I tried to change mine from GSM850 to EGSM900 to see if it would go into T-Mo's 3G network, it didn't, and now after i switched it back, it won't find the T-Mobile 2G network. When i scan for networks it finds the ATT 2G and 3G networks.