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    So Salomondrin and BBLeaks gives us a sneak peek at OS6 on Bold 9650.(Which by the way looks AWESOME!) As stated by Sal, OS6 will be 177mb on the 512mb on board memory Bold 9650. which leave 335mb on board memory left for other stuff. (Bold 9650 owners will be happy)

    My question is Bold 9700 owners, will we be happy enough? on the Bold 9700 with 256mb on board memory with 177mb of OS6 (may or may not be the case) which leaves us 79mb on board memory , will this satisfy your needs? will it be sluggish? will you have enough apps that you want? etc........your thoughts on this..............
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    Personally if RIM could come up with a encryption protocol for the Micro SD card, you could have a 256Mb ROM and it wouldn't matter.

    but since they will not do it

    i think it will be a MASSIVE let down and force people to the xx80 series or to a new platform.

    but i still haven't seen anything about OS6 that proves it to be "Blackberries Champion"

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    But why would we care about the memory left? Cant we install the 3rd party apps on our memory card?
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    We can only speculate but with about 80MB left i should be ok.
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    I'll be very happy with 79mb app space. Don't forget shrinking os to increase even more app space.

    Your phone won't really start to move sluggish unless you are down to like 10 or 15 free mb.

    It's just like the b old 9000 on OS 5. With 30mb free space after OS and apps, I was contented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matrix Leader View Post
    But why would we care about the memory left? Cant we install the 3rd party apps on our memory card?
    We should care because we have half the memory of the 9650!

    And no, we can't... we can store apps on the memory card but we can't run them from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phill_UK View Post
    We should care because we have half the memory of the 9650!

    And no, we can't... we can store apps on the memory card but we can't run them from there.
    Sure, but then you can get the 9780 when it comes out and not worry about mem.
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    Guys remember this is only version .80. I'm positive the newer bb 6 versions are in the 200mb range
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe_23 View Post
    Guys remember this is only version .80. I'm positive the newer bb 6 versions are in the 200mb range
    Yeah, but for the touchscreen 9800
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    That being said. If the APIs for the touch screen is removed, won't the OS be much smaller?
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    I think I'll cross this bridge when it comes. No reason to get flustered over something that might work perfectly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NTHQ View Post
    That being said. If the APIs for the touch screen is removed, won't the OS be much smaller?
    In the video it showed the OS size at 177mb. This is the non-touch version obviously 'cause its on the 9650... This is without the radio files as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe_23 View Post
    Guys remember this is only version .80. I'm positive the newer bb 6 versions are in the 200mb range
    The 9780 iis running OS6 at 253MB
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    My thoughts? I want it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Average Joe View Post
    The 9780 iis running OS6 at 253MB
    Where did you get that info from?

    If you check out phinx's video here and pause at 2 min 25 secs, you can clearly see he still has in excess of 308MB file free memory left...
    I presume he has a few 3rd party apps installed, so that indicates OS6 is running at around (or likely less than) 200MB on the 9780
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phill_UK View Post
    Where did you get that info from?

    If you check out phinx's video here and pause at 2 min 25 secs, you can clearly see he still has in excess of 308MB file free memory left...
    I presume he has a few 3rd party apps installed, so that indicates OS6 is running at around (or likely less than) 200MB on the 9780
    Heres 2 screenshots from phinx's phone that he posted in another thread



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    Quote Originally Posted by Average Joe View Post
    Heres 2 screenshots from phinx's phone:
    Yeah, sorry... just saw your post here

    Still can't work out why there's such a big difference between the OS6 stated memory usage, and the file free memory
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    i believe that the 9700 build- will be around 150-170mb... And thats the first ones... Probably, with time the OS will grow, but i think it'll be "settled" by then... As considering will it be sluggish or not- i hope(and think,believe,logically understand) that maybe it'll have some probs(hick-ups), but nothing significant... Anyway, the browser is what makes, for me atleast, this OS important....
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    286.3 USED (OS + whatever else) and 225.7 FREE = 512 total exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe_23 View Post
    286.3 USED (OS + whatever else) and 225.7 FREE = 512 total exactly.
    Yes, but if you watch the video and pause at 2 min 25 sec on the Status screen, it shows in excess of 308MB file free memory.

    How does that add up... or am I missing something obvious here?
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    I think:

    - Current 9800 OS is very very young, it must be filled with glitches and patched to support the touchscreen + keyboard + 5MP camera + trackpad at once without making the BB sluggish.

    - If you are left with lets say 65MB, what is the criteria to say that it isn't enough memory? How much is a good amount of memory?

    - The list of devices that will support OS6 is very short, I imagine it must have a reason related to device performance (if not then I don't know what the **** does RIM have in mind).

    - What would be a good reason to migrate to OS6? Performance? Browser speed? Just for the pleasure of having the latest software?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hector.ruiz View Post
    - What would be a good reason to migrate to OS6? Performance? Browser speed? Just for the pleasure of having the latest software?
    All those reasons. Especially the last one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe_23 View Post
    286.3 USED (OS + whatever else) and 225.7 FREE = 512 total exactly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phill_UK View Post
    Yes, but if you watch the video and pause at 2 min 25 sec on the Status screen, it shows in excess of 308MB file free memory.

    How does that add up... or am I missing something obvious here?
    hmmm...the vid and screencaps were taken weeks apart...maybe we should ask him to check to see if the numbers match up on those 2 screens now
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    I'm assuming the OS has not been shrunk which means that you could start with 79 MB's and go up from there. I did a little experiment on the OS 6's that have been released with Shrink-A-OS. I don't think SAO has been updated for OS 6, but I was still able to shrink the OS by about 30MB'. So now were up to over 100 MB's for apps. Unless OS requires a significant amount of file free it looks like there shouldn't be any memory issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matrix Leader View Post
    But why would we care about the memory left? Cant we install the 3rd party apps on our memory card?
    No you cannot install applications to the SD card on Blackberries

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