Z10 Users Memory Leaks?

**DJM626** · 02-06-2013, 07:27 PM

Hello all of you lucky ones who are owners of BB Z10's. In the states here so have to wait it out like many others. Just thought I would ask a question that I have not seen posted anywhere yet. Is there a way on the Z10 that you are able to check for any kind of memory leak (s)? If there is a way, is anyone finding anything of any significance out? I know we were told memory leaks would be something of the past, but I just wanted to see if anyone has noticed anything, or can report any kind of findings, if they have seen something

Thanks

**GTiLeo** · 02-06-2013, 07:52 PM

there is a way
you pull up your system settings

go to About

pull the drop menu to hardware and it'll show you your battery percentage and above it yout total memory and memory usage

i haven't noticed any memory leaks, but it would be nice to have a memory cleaner feature like BBOS 7.1

**DJM626** · 02-06-2013, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by GTiLeo

there is a way
you pull up your system settings

go to About

pull the drop menu to hardware and it'll show you your battery percentage and above it yout total memory and memory usage

i haven't noticed any memory leaks, but it would be nice to have a memory cleaner feature like BBOS 7.1

Thanks GTiLeo appreciate the info. Was just wondering if memory leaks really will be a thing of the past, or if one is going to have to monitor and delete things to ensure a smooth and stable performance

**gord888** · 02-06-2013, 09:14 PM

since apps are written in C++, there are always changes that developers may allocate memory and forget to deallocate it. That would cause memory leaks... but since the OS tracks everything the app does, in theory, if you close down an app, it should free all the memory. BUT - the hub and stuff are still apps, and they never close, so in theory if the RIM folks forgot to dealloacate memory, they could cause some leaks.

**npisano** · 02-07-2013, 04:47 PM

I'm finding I'm having a little issue with "possible" memory leaks. When I reboot my Z10, I start out with about 1.3 GB of free memory. After several hours of use, I'm down to between 800-900 MB free memory. I make sure I've closed down all apps - I don't have any active frames open. Does anyone have any suggestions/possible causes?

**InvalidUser0510** · 02-07-2013, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by npisano

I'm finding I'm having a little issue with "possible" memory leaks. When I reboot my Z10, I start out with about 1.3 GB of free memory. After several hours of use, I'm down to between 800-900 MB free memory. I make sure I've closed down all apps - I don't have any active frames open. Does anyone have any suggestions/possible causes?

I wouldn't worry about it if it's not causing any slow downs in the OS. The reason memory decreases like that is because there really is no benefit in clearing it unless it is going to be needed. Thus, modern OS's actually keep some recently run apps in memory just in case you decide to run them again. I haven't shut my phone down once since I got it, and I'm hovering around 950mb+ free with all apps closed, which is how much it has on a fresh boot. However, sometimes, it keeps less memory free, depending on use. It's definitely not a leak. Unless your phone is slowing down, it's not a memory leak but probably just the phone keeping stuff in memory

I'm happy to report that I have not noticed a single memory leak at all

I haven't shut down the phone once since I got it more than 48 hours ago either. That is really impressive as I even had memory leaks on the playbook. None here though

**LazyEvul** · 02-07-2013, 05:03 PM

The RAM usage seems to fluctuate in my experience, even without any Active Frames running. Might have to do with things syncing in the background? Unless you feel a genuine decrease in performance, I wouldn't worry too much about it. So far the phone has consistently been silky smooth for me.

**Steve Rizla** · 02-07-2013, 05:21 PM

Turn on your phone and then go straight to the HUB. You'll notice that you will get a message about it rebuilding itself. That is probably where most of the memory is being used.
At least that is the way it is for me. I have 9 accounts attached to my hub.

**npisano** · 02-07-2013, 05:58 PM

Thank you for all the replies. I only noticed a performance hit once after 24 hrs of use. I went into Blackberry World and I was getting the spinning circle quite a bit. I did reboot that time, but other than that, the phone has been awesome. I agree, it is VERY smooth and FAST. I love it!

**InvalidUser0510** · 02-07-2013, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by npisano

Thank you for all the replies. I only noticed a performance hit once after 24 hrs of use. I went into Blackberry World and I was getting the spinning circle quite a bit. I did reboot that time, but other than that, the phone has been awesome. I agree, it is VERY smooth and FAST. I love it!

That spinning circle is data loading, which is Internet dependent. That does not indicate a memory leak at all, but a network issue. If you noticed side menus lag when coming up or other lag, that would be more relevant. I've had my phone on since 5pm February 5th without a single restart, and there hasn't been a single issue with performance.

**Sparro** · 02-07-2013, 06:18 PM

I have two Z10's and they are solid. No issues. Memory leaks are BlackBerry past, lets not discuss this kind of stuff with BlackBerry 10.

**DJM626** · 02-07-2013, 06:26 PM

Ok. I just wanted that to be confirmed. This for sure will be my next device, but I hope down the road I am not hearing anything like people doing as many battery pulls in a day as they are doing swipes, or if there are memory leaks like the current line up of BB phones.. I would hope those issues would be all but gone. Hate to sound negative or paranoid here, but anytime I lock myself into a two year contract, I want to make sure this phone does not hinder me in usage as some of my previous BB's did. Good to know everyone is agreeing on these things. Sounds like they did straighten things out and get issues resolved

**InvalidUser0510** · 02-07-2013, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by DJM626

Ok. I just wanted that to be confirmed. This for sure will be my next device, but I hope down the road I am not hearing anything like people doing as many battery pulls in a day as they are doing swipes, or if there are memory leaks like the current line up of BB phones.. I would hope those issues would be all but gone. Hate to sound negative or paranoid here, but anytime I lock myself into a two year contract, I want to make sure this phone does not hinder me in usage as some of my previous BB's did. Good to know everyone is agreeing on these things. Sounds like they did straighten things out and get issues resolved

You have every right to be paranoid. I was just as paranoid, especially since I imported my device and paid full price since carriers won't have it till March. I was even disappointed with the playbook that had memory leak issues for me. With that said, you have absolutely nothing to worry about with BB10. As I said, I've had it running non stop since I unlocked it and put the sim card in (February 5th at almost 5pm was the last time I restarted it), and I haven't had any issues at all. Animations are just as smooth as when I turned it on

Also, even with websites open and a lot of apps (all 8 spots taken), I have around 300-500mb free RAM...that is incredible considering some of those apps are Android ports, and the Android runtime is hogging some of that RAM too! If you don't run any Android apps, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that you have 700-800mb free, even with 8 apps running.

Oh, and I have 50 apps/games installed, just in case you wanted to know. So I definitely have been using it heavily...

**Omnitech** · 02-07-2013, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by GTiLeo

but it would be nice to have a memory cleaner feature like BBOS 7.1

I used to think that's what that "memory cleaner" did, but as it turns out that has nothing to do with it.

The "memory cleaner" was just a security function that cleared potentially sensitive data from the device in case some sneaky hacker got hold of it and tried to extract sensitive information.

I believe it cleared some browser caches, passwords, encryption keys - stuff like that.

**DJM626** · 02-07-2013, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by InvalidUser0510

You have every right to be paranoid. I was just as paranoid, especially since I imported my device and paid full price since carriers won't have it till March. I was even disappointed with the playbook that had memory leak issues for me. With that said, you have absolutely nothing to worry about with BB10. As I said, I've had it running non stop since I unlocked it and put the sim card in (February 5th at almost 5pm was the last time I restarted it), and I haven't had any issues at all. Animations are just as smooth as when I turned it on

Also, even with websites open and a lot of apps (all 8 spots taken), I have around 300-500mb free RAM...that is incredible considering some of those apps are Android ports, and the Android runtime is hogging some of that RAM too! If you don't run any Android apps, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that you have 700-800mb free, even with 8 apps running.

Oh, and I have 50 apps/games installed, just in case you wanted to know. So I definitely have been using it heavily...

Thanks!

Now that you have yours all broken in, you can sell it to me so I don't have to wait for what is going to seem like eternity. Very complete answer and definitely put my mind at ease. Thanks

**InvalidUser0510** · 02-07-2013, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by DJM626

Thanks!

Now that you have yours all broken in, you can sell it to me so I don't have to wait for what is going to seem like eternity. Very complete answer and definitely put my mind at ease. Thanks

Ahaha you're welcome! Look on the bright side, at least t's not that long of a wait compared to back when the QNX acquisition was first mentioned.

also by the time you get it, Blackberry world will have way more apps!

**npisano** · 02-11-2013, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by InvalidUser0510

I wouldn't worry about it if it's not causing any slow downs in the OS. The reason memory decreases like that is because there really is no benefit in clearing it unless it is going to be needed. Thus, modern OS's actually keep some recently run apps in memory just in case you decide to run them again. I haven't shut my phone down once since I got it, and I'm hovering around 950mb+ free with all apps closed, which is how much it has on a fresh boot. However, sometimes, it keeps less memory free, depending on use. It's definitely not a leak. Unless your phone is slowing down, it's not a memory leak but probably just the phone keeping stuff in memory

I'm happy to report that I have not noticed a single memory leak at all

I haven't shut down the phone once since I got it more than 48 hours ago either. That is really impressive as I even had memory leaks on the playbook. None here though

I have to admit, I was getting a little discouraged UNTIL TODAY. Following this advice, I hadn't rebooted my phone in 2 1/2 days to test this out. Once again I started with 1.3 GB free after reboot. By yesterday evening (2 days without reboot) I was down to 840 MB free and feeling discouraged. Today I continued to let it run, opened several more apps with a few active frames open. Basically, I tried to give it a good "workout". I then shut down what I wasn't using, keeping a couple of active frames running. I just checked my memory now and, lo and behold, I was back up above 950 MB free! Just as you described, memory was freed up as needed. Everything has continued to run smoothly and no lag or delays have been experienced. I'm glad I listened to you and persevered as I feel MUCH better about this (non) issue. I loved this phone even with this concern, now I love it even more! Thank you again for your knowledgeable response!