Unlocking BB10

**rav813** · 11-13-2012, 08:32 PM

With the announcement and all the excitement around BB10, it got me reminiscing of the good ol' days. I remember thinking, "doesn't matter which carrier gets it, because I'm going to buy it and get it unlocked."

Now, obviously not much can be said about the BB10 capability, but I hope RIM realizes/remembers that one of its selling points was that it was easily unlockable for world-use…a fully functional and upgradable unlock…unlike the iPhone's software unlock which couldn't be updated to the next OS. Weak.

So RIM, please keep up the great momentum, but also do not forget the little things, like easily unlocked so I can buy mine from any carrier and use it ASAP!

BlackBerry by Choice.

**Bobcat665** · 11-14-2012, 11:34 PM

Man... I hope that RIM doesn't mess around with that. Having Apple messing around with unlocking is bad enough...

**chrysaurora** · 11-30-2012, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by rav813

With the announcement and all the excitement around BB10, it got me reminiscing of the good ol' days. I remember thinking, "doesn't matter which carrier gets it, because I'm going to buy it and get it unlocked."

Now, obviously not much can be said about the BB10 capability, but I hope RIM realizes/remembers that one of its selling points was that it was easily unlockable for world-use…a fully functional and upgradable unlock…unlike the iPhone's software unlock which couldn't be updated to the next OS. Weak.

So RIM, please keep up the great momentum, but also do not forget the little things, like easily unlocked so I can buy mine from any carrier and use it ASAP!

BlackBerry by Choice.

+1 for unlock. But I think you are missing something: BlackBerry has always required two kinds of unlock. One is device unlock/sim-unlock. So, you can put any carrier's sim card in it. And the other is PIN-unlock/PIN-release. And that has always been a bitc*. For eg: when I travel internationally, I am able to swap SIM cards on my Bold because I have it unlocked but I still can not use data because for that I have to call my original carrier and have them release the pin. And that's seldom possible.
So, yes, RIM should take care of both these issues.
1. SIM unlock should be easy.
2. PIN locking should NOT be there in the first place. But if it is there, it should not require calling the carrier. Just authenticate with your BB ID and switch SIM cards or something along those lines.

**FrankIAm** · 11-30-2012, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by chrysaurora

2. PIN locking should NOT be there in the first place. But if it is there, it should not require calling the carrier. Just authenticate with your BB ID and switch SIM cards or something along those lines.

What are you talking about, I've used data with other SIMs... Maybe you are on an a**hole carrier

**chrysaurora** · 12-01-2012, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by FrankIAm

What are you talking about, I've used data with other SIMs... Maybe you are on an a**hole carrier

No, this is actually a well known issue with BlackBerrys.

**npisano** · 12-01-2012, 01:41 AM

Originally Posted by chrysaurora

No, this is actually a well known issue with BlackBerrys.

I'm a little confused here too, I must admit. I recently (a few months ago) travelled to Australia with my unlocked Rogers 9810. I put in an Optus (Australian) sim card and had full access to data (internet, gps mapping, BBM, email, sms, etc). What is this well-known issue with blackberries, as I've never encountered it? I've been able to do this with other blackberries too. Am I just lucky?

**acrogenesis** · 12-01-2012, 02:42 AM

i have a rogers 9900 i use it with my telcel sim (mexico) in mexico and usa no problems.
fyi you can unlock iPhone without software sites like unlockmyiphone.us do that

**Diggz92** · 12-01-2012, 02:46 AM

Not a bad idea if done right

**chrysaurora** · 12-01-2012, 11:08 AM

Hmm.. I see. Okay, let me explain:

BlackBerry service is tied to BIS and/or BES accounts. Usually, when you unlock your phone, you can insert another carieer's sim card. But with BlackBerry's, unlocking of a phone will just allow you to insert somebody else's SIM card and make phone-calls. But it won't release you from your BIS/BES account. So, you'd have to call your (old) carrier and ask them to release your PIN. And then you'd call your new carrier and ask them to create a BIS account for you. Then you'd configure it etc. and your data would start working.

It appears that with BB OS 6/7 things have changed a bit. Now, email setup works with BlackBerry id. Maybe somebody more knowledgeable can explain these changes with PIN release procedure vs. BB ID in new OS 6/7?

By the way, there are a few other threads that are discussing similar BIS/PIN locking issues. For eg:
http://forums.crackberry.com/general...re-bis-755049/
Removing BIS account
Just deactivated my BB Service, Have one question
http://forums.crackberry.com/general...e-pins-693677/ (this guy mentions "I've read hundreds of threads where people have to get the carrier to release PINs before you change SIM cards")
http://forums.crackberry.com/general...ed-pin-731707/

**bmercer94** · 12-01-2012, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by chrysaurora

Hmm.. I see. Okay, let me explain:

BlackBerry service is tied to BIS and/or BES accounts. Usually, when you unlock your phone, you can insert another carieer's sim card. But with BlackBerry's, unlocking of a phone will just allow you to insert somebody else's SIM card and make phone-calls. But it won't release you from your BIS/BES account. So, you'd have to call your (old) carrier and ask them to release your PIN. And then you'd call your new carrier and ask them to create a BIS account for you. Then you'd configure it etc. and your data would start working.

It appears that with BB OS 6/7 things have changed a bit. Now, email setup works with BlackBerry id. Maybe somebody more knowledgeable can explain these changes with PIN release procedure vs. BB ID in new OS 6/7?

By the way, there are a few other threads that are discussing similar BIS/PIN locking issues. For eg:
http://forums.crackberry.com/general...re-bis-755049/
Removing BIS account
Just deactivated my BB Service, Have one question
http://forums.crackberry.com/general...e-pins-693677/ (this guy mentions "I've read hundreds of threads where people have to get the carrier to release PINs before you change SIM cards")
http://forums.crackberry.com/general...ed-pin-731707/

Actually never had this issue, my 9300 was a bit slow, i got a 9700, unlocked the 9700 on-the-spot before i purchased it, i did not contact the original carrier, just inserted my SIM and went with it. I then sold my unlocked 9300 to someone, who inserted her SIM and had data immediately. Maybe it's carrier dependent?

**JIVE8900** · 01-19-2013, 11:36 AM

It won't be that easy to unlock bb10 devices. I've heard that the phones will lockup again after being unlocked. That's a feature being requested by the carriers to stifle the grey market.

**LiLAzNNewB** · 01-20-2013, 11:26 AM

Hi folks

Don't know if its possible to post links to other sites here, but I've been reading and seeing a lot of shared links. I don't post often either...! But N4BB confirmed that they will support the unlocking of BB10 devices as they claim it should be similar to the 4G LTE Playbook.

Take a look here: BlackBerry Z10 and X10 Unlock Codes - N4BB

**JIVE8900** · 01-25-2013, 09:02 AM

See more and more the January 30 launch date make sense. On January 26 it will be illegal to unlock carrier locked devices

**shlammed** · 01-25-2013, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by chrysaurora

Hmm.. I see. Okay, let me explain:

BlackBerry service is tied to BIS and/or BES accounts. Usually, when you unlock your phone, you can insert another carieer's sim card. But with BlackBerry's, unlocking of a phone will just allow you to insert somebody else's SIM card and make phone-calls. But it won't release you from your BIS/BES account. So, you'd have to call your (old) carrier and ask them to release your PIN. And then you'd call your new carrier and ask them to create a BIS account for you. Then you'd configure it etc. and your data would start working.

It appears that with BB OS 6/7 things have changed a bit. Now, email setup works with BlackBerry id. Maybe somebody more knowledgeable can explain these changes with PIN release procedure vs. BB ID in new OS 6/7?

By the way, there are a few other threads that are discussing similar BIS/PIN locking issues. For eg:
http://forums.crackberry.com/general...re-bis-755049/
Removing BIS account
Just deactivated my BB Service, Have one question
http://forums.crackberry.com/general...e-pins-693677/ (this guy mentions "I've read hundreds of threads where people have to get the carrier to release PINs before you change SIM cards")
http://forums.crackberry.com/general...ed-pin-731707/

I've heard of something like this....maybe in 2004

get with the times brah!

**LeeNguyen7488** · 03-20-2013, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by chrysaurora

+1 for unlock. But I think you are missing something: BlackBerry has always required two kinds of unlock. One is device unlock/sim-unlock. So, you can put any carrier's sim card in it. And the other is PIN-unlock/PIN-release. And that has always been a bitc*. For eg: when I travel internationally, I am able to swap SIM cards on my Bold because I have it unlocked but I still can not use data because for that I have to call my original carrier and have them release the pin. And that's seldom possible.
So, yes, RIM should take care of both these issues.
1. SIM unlock should be easy.
2. PIN locking should NOT be there in the first place. But if it is there, it should not require calling the carrier. Just authenticate with your BB ID and switch SIM cards or something along those lines.

Was your phone locked to Wind Mobile or Mobilicity?