[DarcDroid]

I don't know whether someone already posted this on CB or not, I did a little search and didn't find it.

This video is uploaded on May 2 2012, one day after the BB World Keynote.

Engadget, the site where text war about gadget always heating-up, posted this video and from the comments I can see that most people still don't know that this idea is ripped off from BB10. Here's the post in Engadget.

[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGQTaHGQ04Q&feature=player_embedded[/YT]

Yes, it's a little different and maybe the video uploader have thought about this before BB World. But I don't think an idea this good and published around the same time is a mere coincidence.

The uploader also disable the comment in Youtube despite of having 95% Like bar. What I can say is that he/she doesn't want people to read the comment stating that it's ripped off from BB10.

[sam_b77]

Well it looks a lot different than the BB10 keyboard.
Also since he uploaded on May 2nd and seeing that RIM unveiled the keyboard on 1st, it seems unlikely that the guy developed it in 24 hrs. He must have been working before on that.

Seems a little unfair to accuse him of ripping it off from RIM.

[bbaleno]

Nothing like bb10. Alsoit looks like the video was sped up. Mostly what I got from it was. Cursor movement.

[howarmat]

this is nothing like the new swiftkey design that RIM is going to use.

[DarcDroid]

It does differ with BB10, oh well I hope no company will copy BB10 at least before it launched.

[omniusovermind]

I'm no developer, but isn't the BB10 keyboard functionality simply one app away from being copied as a 3rd party app for other platforms?

[donnation]

How is this anything like BB10 keyboard?

[llllBULLSEYE]

Yep nothing Like the BB10 Keyboard.
unfortunately for BB10 I'm pretty sure some dev is working on an
App for it.
anyone know if SwiftKey got this keyboard patent

[Mystic205]

You are absolutely right, and this is precisely my point about NOT releasing any operational or functional details about BB10 before the launch of the new devices...

So, what would have been a nugget of interest at the launch and in the subsequent reviews will become "RIM has included a modified keyboard similar to those available for the last three months on other platforms..its a shame RIM didnt do anything new..."

There will be at best a tepid response to the launch and in reviews if info is leaked out in advance..

I'm no developer, but isn't the BB10 keyboard functionality simply one app away from being copied as a 3rd party app for other platforms?

[cgk]

The big question is - does Blackberry have an exclusive on that particular version of the swiftkey keyboard (swipe up for words on individual keys rather than the blackberry look) or will we it see available on android devices in advance of the bb10 launch?

[Moonbase0ne]

[/HL]5;7374327]You are absolutely right, and this is precisely my point about NOT releasing any operational or functional details about BB10 before the launch of the new devices...

So, what would have been a nugget of interest at the launch and in the subsequent reviews will become "RIM has included a modified keyboard similar to those available for the last three months on other platforms..its a shame RIM didnt do anything new..."

There will be at best a tepid response to the launch and in reviews if info is leaked out in advance..

The only problem with that is, can RIM afford to not announce the features for bb10 that they hope will make people want to jump on the BB10 platform?

How long has its been since they first announced BB10? And how long will it be before its actually released? Do you think people will simply keep waiting for BB10 for months on end without seeing something new or exciting?

[omniusovermind]

The only problem with that is, can RIM afford to not announce the features for bb10 that they hope will make people want to jump on the BB10 platform?

How long has its been since they first announced BB10? And how long will it be before its actually released? Do you think people will simply keep waiting for BB10 for months on end without seeing something new or exciting?

I've always believed that RIM over the last year has been a victim of poor timing, which is something they can't really control. Ideally, if BB10 phones were to hit the market right now at the same time as BBW and announced during it, it would have been a smash hit. It would have all of the spotlight to itself, with no Windows 8, No iPhone 5, and nothing new from Android OS. perfect timing.

But they couldn't possibly get it developed in time with the shakeup in CEO's just finishing. Now they face the prospect of releasing right alongside Win 8 and iPhone 5. That can't be something they're happy about, but it is what it is.

[JAGWIRE]

The only problem with that is, can RIM afford to not announce the features for bb10 that they hope will make people want to jump on the BB10 platform?

How long has its been since they first announced BB10? And how long will it be before its actually released? Do you think people will simply keep waiting for BB10 for months on end without seeing something new or exciting?

Yes i do think people will wait and so does RIM. If RIM honestly thought that BB10, OS and Phone, wasnt going to be a game changer then they wouldnt be waiting so long to put it out. RIM also doesnt want to show/release anything that is not 100% going to be there and also be fully completed. they have a habit of launching unfinished phones in the way of software and they CAN NOT do that again with BB10. So yes we will wait, and we will do some with our heads up knowing that BB10 will be a great thing.

[Mystic205]

i think you are missing the point..

Talking about stuff is intended to sell stuff and RIM has nothing to currently sell.. attempting to sway analyst and press opinion to bolster the stock price is a waste of time.. as evidenced by the generally poor press and stock price slippage.

I have spent my entire career in high tech systems and semiconductors and product information is the most critically guarded information, and whether you like Apple or Samsung or not, the fact is that both companies jealously and aggressively hold back and hide product information until the launch event..such that even 12hrs before a launch nobody knows physical looks, features or specs of a new product.. This is how it NEEDS to be to make the largest possible impact at the launch of a new product ..

Given the public has the attention span halfway between a gnat and a brick..talking about stuff you cannot see reviews of within a week or buy within a 30-day window simply does you no good at all..and canseriously degrade the chances of a successful ramp of a new product/business

The only problem with that is, can RIM afford to not announce the features for bb10 that they hope will make people want to jump on the BB10 platform?

How long has its been since they first announced BB10? And how long will it be before its actually released? Do you think people will simply keep waiting for BB10 for months on end without seeing something new or exciting?

[calicocat2010]

Yeah this is Not the same as the genius Keyboard we saw for BB10. BB10's Keyboard there are words that pop up from what the User has commonly typed. Also there's a swipe up of the common used words.

This video there is no prediction of text popping up or swipe of the finger.

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[siddo_d]

RIM needs to patent everything quick

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[Tre Lawrence]

Can someone tell me what is unique about the virtual keyboard that was just unveiled? I am truly curious, as this is the second thread that someone has stated people are stealing it.

What unique feature does it have?

[Premium1]

One this was being tested before bb10 was announced and 2 it looks nothing like bb10 keyboard, calm down don't get your panties in a bunch.

[Premium1]

Can someone tell me what is unique about the virtual keyboard that was just unveiled? I am truly curious, as this is the second thread that someone has stated people are stealing it.

What unique feature does it have?

Nothing and if you do a little searching you will see what RIM is using was already in swift key so if anything RIM stole it.http://www.androidcentral.com/about-...ry-10-keyboard

[sam_b77]

Nothing and if you do a little searching you will see what RIM is using was already in swift key so if anything RIM stole it.http://www.androidcentral.com/about-...ry-10-keyboard

Wait...SwiftKey is a third party developer. Not a native Android feature. So let me get this straight, BB provides a native keyboard, which is not "Innivation" , but Android gets third party Keyboard and that is an Android Leap???.
Maybe RIM got SwiftKey to develop the keyboard for them. No harm in that. Get the best suppliers. As long as the final product is good to go out of the box.

[Premium1]

Wait...SwiftKey is a third party developer. Not a native Android feature. So let me get this straight, BB provides a native keyboard, which is not "Innivation" , but Android gets third party Keyboard and that is an Android Leap???.
Maybe RIM got SwiftKey to develop the keyboard for them. No harm in that. Get the best suppliers. As long as the final product is good to go out of the box.

I never said it was a native android feature, I was just pointing out that it isn't something RIM created, they used something from another company.

[llllBULLSEYE]

While people are pointing that RIM stole this from SwiftKey
This keyboard is just variation of a SwiftKey Keyboard.
What RIM has added is the predictions being imbedded with the keys
and a simple swipe up enables that word, so you never have to
move your eyes or reach with your thumb.
current Swiftkey keyboards don't have this feature and neither does
the latest update that's soon to come out.

[Fr3lncr]

While people are pointing that RIM stole this from SwiftKey
This keyboard is just variation of a SwiftKey Keyboard.
What RIM has added is the predictions being imbedded with the keys
and a simple swipe up enables that word, so you never have to
move your eyes or reach with your thumb.
current Swiftkey keyboards don't have this feature and neither does
the latest update that's soon to come out.

I'll add to this as I've got Swiftkey on my S2.
- RIM also changed the way you change the keyboard layout by using gestures (instead of buttons).
- RIM's keyboard will apparently learn how you type (i.e. where you hit keys) to cut down on mistakes. SwiftKey only learns what you type for text prediction. According to the Podcast though someone mentioned Apple's keyboard does this as well and I wouldn't be surprised as I can type really fast on an iPod touch (much better than any keyboard on my S2 which is larger by far).

The swipe back to delete is on Swiftkey as well (never used it though) but I think RIM is doing it differently.

At the end of the day, the only similarities between RIM's keyboard and Swiftkey are the text prediction and maybe the degree of swiping back to delete a word. That's it. Maybe RIM licensed the text prediction and the rest is all their own meaning if RIM patented the rest of the features, it can still have the advantage.

Some other features that are cool with Switfkey are the ability to set the duration of haptic feedback and how long before the second set of keys kick in. Hopefully this type of customization is available with RIM's as well.

At the end of the day, we don't know for sure how much of Swiftkey RIM is using outside of the text prediction and likely wont know until more is released. But to put down RIM's keyboard as 'being the same as Swiftkey' is inaccurate. As pointed out, it does offer features not currently found anywhere else or at least in single product. But if nothing is patented, it wont be long before someone emulates it.

[Moonbase0ne]

Yes i do think people will wait and so does RIM. If RIM honestly thought that BB10, OS and Phone, wasnt going to be a game changer then they wouldnt be waiting so long to put it out. RIM also doesnt want to show/release anything that is not 100% going to be there and also be fully completed. they have a habit of launching unfinished phones in the way of software and they CAN NOT do that again with BB10. So yes we will wait, and we will do some with our heads up knowing that BB10 will be a great thing.

Maybe they are waiting so long to put it out because they are having issues getting it to workproperly with their current infrstructure, software, email, and messaging system. Or, maybe they want it to be perfect. Or, maybe they are waiting on this special chip/processor. Who really knows the real reason.

But, all the consumer/press knows is that it is taking them an awfully LONG time to actually release BBX/BB10 from when it was actually announced. After awhile, people want to see a finished product, not how great it might/will be "X" amount of months from after you annouce it.

Also, in my opinion, using terms like "Game changer and Amatuer hour is over", etc... only makes them look bad in the long run when they don't deliver.

$0.02

[DaedalusIcarusHelios]

That keyboard isn't like the BB10 one at all. I do like the text selection and cursor aspects of it. I hope RIM does something as useful, as that is something that can be problematic on touch screens (that's why the trackpad on my Torch is so useful).

The BB10 keyboard is awesome though, at least conceptually (hopefully it is in practice as well).