- CrackBerry Genius
02-09-13, 07:20 AM #26
- 4,216 Posts
Some of the features of the BlackBerry mail system that allows you to limit the amount of data you use, such as not sending attachments or the full email unless you request them. I was in the USA last March for a week and used $12 worth of data. Neighbors that have other smart phones chew through the $30 roaming data packs in a day or so.
Possibly no social plans on OS10, though this may be figured out later by BlackBerry and the carriers as they currently seem to be able to differentiate BBM video data from regular data.
- 02-09-13, 10:36 AM #27
This Z-10 doesn't feel like it's a "Blackberry" any more without BIS, It's simply another smart phone now. They changed the name and killed everything that set BB's apart from the others.... This will be the last BB I probably buy ever.
-No BIS = no communications when disaster strikes.
-No PIN to PIN is bull**** I had clients that communicated through it with me that I don't want on my personal bbm.
-Encryption is gone.
-Highlighting text is a horror story
-E-Mails are not real time anymore.
I'm not a hating troll but I'm unhappy that they took the things that separated and made BLACKBERRY and tossed them in the garbage to get a new generation of users. However the question is will the older generation stay after they realize we have been robbed.
R.I.P. RIM (hopefully jim basilie decides to resurrect a divice with pin & bis)
- CrackBerry Genius
02-09-13, 10:48 AM #30
- 2,285 Posts
- CrackBerry User
02-09-13, 01:26 PM #32
- 14 Posts
I travel internationally very often, I need the data compression when I'm roaming. I was looking forward
To buying the Z10 but have now changed my mind and will keep the 9900 until a BIS option is available on a new device
So here's hoping it's not too far away.
- 02-09-13, 06:33 PM #35
- 02-09-13, 08:47 PM #37
For me I'm glad BIS is gone. I'm going to a country where they don't offer BIS which means I wouldn't be able to use my facebook, twitter, and app world without BIS. Now with BB10 I can which I'm super happy about.
- 02-09-13, 09:09 PM #38
My opinion is that BIS had to be eliminated for BB to attract US customers. The monthly cost of BIS here in the US is more than what the carriers charge iPhone and Android users for their data plans, and this is seen as very negative by US buyers. Probably true that not everyone knows exactly what the benefits of BIS are, only that people would not buy a BlackBerry if they had to pay $10 more a month for BIS.
From what I've read here on CrackBerry, BIS is cheaper than other data plans outside the US. The big four carriers have been killing BlackBerry in the US by charging us more.
- 02-09-13, 09:29 PM #39
- 02-09-13, 09:52 PM #40
I'm not sure why there are a lot of people saying that they would prefer to have BIS. I've always viewed BIS as a hindering of email services. Sure, it provided push email for virtually any email address known to man, but it had some serious drawbacks compared to ActiveSync on iOS, Android and Windows Phone.
The constant deal breaker with BIS for me was the 3mb email attachment limit and the inability to sync contacts and calendars for Exchange accounts without having to resort to BES.
Another annoying thing about BIS and the old BlackBerry system was moving emails to folders or removing emails. There was always the option to remove from just the device or remove from the mailbox as well but I always found myself sorting my emails again when I got home because changes on the phone did not reflect on the email server.
Removing BIS is the best possible thing for BlackBerry to do. It puts more power in people's hands when it comes to managing their emails, contacts, and calendars.
As for the data compression, I find that most data plans are more than sufficient for most people. On average most people only use around 500-750 MBs per month, with me around the 1.5 GB mark. I have a 5 GB plan for a really good price and don't see why everyone is losing their minds over the loss of data compression. I'd rather have the performance.
Posted using CrackBerry App on BB10
- 02-09-13, 09:55 PM #41
- 02-09-13, 10:28 PM #44
So, does yahoo email support activesync or whatever so that I still get emails instantly through yahoo?? Push was definitely the best feature of Blackberry. I wish they bring it back in the future...
- 02-09-13, 10:33 PM #45
Edit: don't want to post again, so putting it here:
$10 add on for BIS to their 4G monthly plans.
Last edited by TequilaAddict; 02-10-13 at 12:10 AM.
- 02-09-13, 11:08 PM #47
Last edited by ealvnv; 02-09-13 at 11:57 PM.
- CrackBerry Newbie
02-09-13, 11:24 PM #48
- 3 Posts
BIS was always a security problem.
and this could not go along with the new certification of OS10.
don't know what I mean? check the news about blackberry/rim in saudi arabia, india, some EU countries.... yes, Rim was forced to open data access to government agencies.
(sim updates and so on..another storry, same direction)
to make a long storry short: if you need a secure infrastructure, don't put your data on a single point of access. setup up your own servers. It is smart, to protect it's own customers.
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