Running the 9th App?
On BlackBerry 10 what happens when you try and run the 9th app simultaneously? Everyone says "up to 8 apps running at a time"... Does it close the first app you opened? Does it warn you? Does it save the state of that app and hibernate it? For example if I have docs to go and I did not save my changes?
Please no speculation. Only those have a Z10 in hand answer! Thanks!
- 02-01-13, 10:50 PM #4
Question: what 8 apps does anybody use/need open at the same time, let alone 9. Not being sarcastic , just boggles my mind anybody needs 8 apps open at once.
Secondly if you wanted to effectively pin an app, why not hit it once and bring it up to number one on rotation if it has made it's way to 8th spot?Negative thinking destroys your brain cells and causes global warming.*- Dodinsky (The Scientific Institute of Get Over It!) Action Spots
- 02-01-13, 11:24 PM #5
The app is closed just as if you tapped the X, which means it should save its "state" properly. It's not "killed", just asked to exit, the way any app is asked to exit, and any app which doesn't properly save is broken.
- 02-02-13, 05:03 AM #8
- CrackBerry Abuser
02-02-13, 05:06 AM #9
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I once met a person at a conference who asked me why his iPhone gets so slow sometimes. I asked him if he ever closes any app. He said he didn't. It turned out he had 20+ apps in the background "frozen". Not sure if that's the cause. But the way background apps work in iPhone is ultra confusing to users.
- CrackBerry Addict
02-02-13, 05:08 AM #10
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i hope there'll be a better solution in the future, because.. i wouldn't really want my spotifiy/music player... or skype, etc. to close just because i didn't pay attention
possible solution: you can mark up to 4 actives frames.. and these active frames won't close until you unmark them
that way you wouldn't have to worry about your music to suddenly stop
- CrackBerry Master
02-02-13, 06:55 AM #11
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Thanks for the info so far... So let's explore the google talk example and a music player app... When either one becomes the 9th app does it still play music and allow for you to get chats? The reason this is important is it shows how much thought BlackBerry put into the architecture. You may feel 9 apps is insane. But some users won't close their apps, like my Mom... I think it's good that they get closed. But it should not kill off important services like Google Talk, and Spotify, in the sense the music and chats should keep flowing.
- CrackBerry User
02-02-13, 09:08 AM #13
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Another one is when I am using the browser and I have a few tabs open, close the browser to do other stuff on the phone and then if I open 8 more apps, when I click the browser again it opens the start page and only that page, all the tabs have gone. Good for battery, speed and memory use, but like kevin said, would be nice to be able to 'pin' a few open or to the top of the 8 list.
- 02-02-13, 09:13 AM #14
Normal for me, no. Normal for my Mom, yes. I could see her logging into Google Talk, and use the device all day, opening up other apps. Then she will hit the 9th app and Google Talk would close. The key is did BlackBerry, for these situations, allow for Google Talk to spin off a background service? Yes developers would have to take advantage of it. But all mobile OS's out today allow for that concept. It's true they don't offer full multitasking like BlackBerry. But I still think you would want some sort of Service to be able to always run. For example, I have Google Talk, as a Developer I don't want it to use the HUB. In this case is there any way when I reboot the phone, for this app to automatically receive chats, without the app running? My guess would be no, because where would the "alerts go to"? We don't have a alert window slider shade.... Or in that case could Google send something to the HUB, and have it open to Google Chat?
I think these are important details that really help the user!
- 02-02-13, 09:44 AM #16
My point is that a good app will still inform you of messages/calls/etc. even if it does get closed by the system. I don't have a Z10, but for those that do; do you still get BBM messages when the app is not in the Active Frames?
- 02-02-13, 09:52 AM #17
- 02-02-13, 09:56 AM #18
- 02-02-13, 10:05 AM #19
I apologize, but you still have it wrong.
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02-02-13, 10:14 AM #20
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i really think it's important that they'll implement something that can prevent an app from closing, even if it'll be the 9th app, something like the idea i suggested
it's not just about the music app, but sometimes i just hang out in skype and don't intend to go offline... or maybe im waiting for someone and in the meantime im opening many different apps and then 2hours later i realize skype was already closed hours ago
and how does whatsapp work on the Z10? or what about future apps like BeBuzz.. because WhatsApp uses your number, so technically you should always be online even if it's not an active frame
same with BeBuzz
a little confused here : /
- 02-02-13, 10:19 AM #21
Push notifications work regardless of the app being open or closed
- 02-02-13, 10:35 AM #22
I believe BBM is always connected and will always get notifications. As for G Talk, and other apps not connected to the hub, neither of us know exactly how it works, as you just stated. Perhaps BthunderW will revisit this thread and explain as he has the Z10 and was the one who mentioned the GTalk scenario and that's what I was really curious about. The comment "it killed it and effectively disconnected me from it it seems." is what intrigued me.
InvalidUser0510 I specifically asked for people who have a BB 10 Device. I appreciate speculation. But I want real users to test it out. I know it "should" work... That's not what I am asking for. I am asking for real users to test it out. Thanks!
So from the sounds of it Google Talk does not work after it's closed? That's what I gathered already?
What about a media app other than the built in one? I find it interesting that the built in one prevents closing... I wonder if other apps can take advantage of that?
- 02-02-13, 11:31 AM #24
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02-02-13, 12:19 PM #25
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