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The real deal with BIS and the new generation of BlackBerry phones
This is probably the clearest description of how the new phones actually utilize email
BIS, bash, bosh: El Reg solves BlackBerry 10 email bafflement ? The Register
Not a deal breaker for me but does clear a lot of confusion up.
- 02-11-13, 11:48 PM #3
See: Blackberry Z10 - no BIS = no secure email
Please don't start duplicate threads. Especially, when they spread FUD.
- 02-12-13, 01:10 AM #4
"Finally, if you have a consumer GMail account then the picture is cloudy. Google has now agreed to support ActiveSync until the end of July. It may decide to release a native for GMail client for BlackBerry 10 as it has for Apple's iOS. Or it may not. If Google pulls ActiveSync from consumer (aka free) GMail then it's polling or IDLE for you".
Disclaimer: I'm a huge BB fan who was forced away about 2 years ago and I am waiting and watching very closely to see how things shake out with the OS and the integration with the hardware.
- 02-12-13, 01:30 AM #5
BlackBerry 10 provides full push support including IMAP-IDLE support for Gmail. BIS first used POP and, later, IMAP for Gmail email access. BIS *never* used Exchange ActiveSync for Gmail and Google Apps integration. You're not losing functionality when it comes to Gmail when switching to a BlackBerry 10 device from a BIS-based device. On the front of consumer services, you are *gaining* in several ways, including more universal push availability.
The Register is an established tech news site and the writers there deserve credit for speaking their minds when it comes to powers-that-be, including Microsoft and Apple, but that article is plainly garbage. The quote you post is one of the several reasons why that article is full of needless FUD and discussing it all over again borders on being useless.
Please see the full discussion from many users in these threads:
Blackberry Z10 - no BIS = no secure email
BB10 supports push email - stop the nonsense.
Ding dong BIS is Dead
Last edited by b320; 02-12-13 at 03:32 AM.
- 02-12-13, 01:40 AM #6
As an aside, my overall impression is that the Z10 is a great handset for someone like me, who couldn't care less about gaming and feel basically the same way about Twitter and FB, although I am forced to view FB occasionally because even my work contacts are using it. I just want to wait through a software upgrade to let all you super-early adopters work through some of the inevitable bugs for me : )
EDIT: you mentioned I'm not losing Gmail functionality when coming to BB10 from a BIS based device. The bottom line is that the same had better be true for anyone coming from any device if they want to make a go of this thing. If I lose any Gmail functionality coming back to BB from iPhone, it'll be a deal breaker.
I'll check out the links you provided.
- 02-12-13, 02:14 AM #7
You'll be pleased to know that the phone call functionality on BlackBerry Z10 is very good. On your last point: BlackBerry is determined to maintain the BlackBerry PIM experience (including mail, contacts, calendar, tasks and notes) the best-in-class. Further, BlackBerry has always done special things to accommodate Gmail-based services and make them work great. I expect that the BlackBerry 10 development will keep at it.
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