- 12-19-12, 09:54 PM #51
This is some good insight - you know, coming from an actual user. Thanks OP'er.
Im happy that there are some really cool things happening in the beta version of the OS. For this type of excitement with obviously a somewhat 3/4 baked OS excited me. I along with many other hope that the cons become pros at launch.
I did open the media player, but the device had nothing media related loaded on it so I couldn't test the player out.
I'm really surprised that we haven't heard much regarding UI animations. I mean Apple is getting hammered by a lot of people for having a blend UI, I'm not sure having less eye candy than iOS is the right move for our brand new OS of the future.
Or maybe RIM is hiding the real UI tricks for Jan 30, and is looking to blow all our collective minds then. Dunno if that's the case, but I hope so.
- 12-19-12, 10:27 PM #53
First, I would like to say thank you for letting us in on L - series. this is a very insightful moment.
Also if you have time, it would be awesome if you could copy & paste all Q&A's in your first post for people to read I imagine this topic going to become long. (don't if you don't want to)
and here are my questions if you can answer them.
1. How fast does the phone feel, I assume its using final hardware for the processor. Are you getting any lag out of gestures or opening, closing or running apps.
2. Screen Resolution? Is it any different from them Dev Alpha's?
3. Camera hardware? did you get a chance to play with the camera at all. And what are your impressions?
- CrackBerry Newbie
12-19-12, 10:35 PM #54
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So you are going to stick to the N series? How certain are you although you haven't tried it yet?
I am interested in the N series more than the L series, but I get the sense that the L series is where all of the focus has gone. I have a 9860 right now and for awhile it seemed like everything was about the 9900. Themes, accessories and games were only available for the bold. I can't really say if the N series will be treated this way because I know nothing, but Kevin mentioned in the podcast that the N series might (probably) get less apps because the full touch is where RIM is putting their focus. I understand that a lot of people get the qwerty's for their messaging capabilities, and that most apps will probably go to both devices because of how easy they made it for the developers. I am just surprised by what seemed to be a commitment to the keyboard version (that you haven't tried) versus the touch screen which you said was the best you've used as far as virtual keyboards go. What makes you not like it? Build quality was something you mentioned, but since you haven't gotten a chance to check out the build quality of the N series how can you know it wont be the same? Boil all that down to - What are you hoping or expecting the N series will do better or have going for it? I am worried about the UI not being as great because of a keyboard, but I love the keyboards. I recently used my Ex's 9900 and I missed a physical keyboard...asked her to trade....she didn't go for it.
- CrackBerry Abuser
12-19-12, 11:05 PM #55
- 155 Posts
Don't know about the resolution
I took a couple of pictures and they looked great and i also tried that time shift, don't know if that's how its called and it works very well it was fun to move back and forth in time.
1) No lag at all, everything was very snappy and satisfying to use. It takes about 1/2 a second to start a fresh app, and re-opening apps from their Active Frame was immediate. When you open the BB Hub it doesn't follow your finger 100% but instead has a slight rubberband feel to the animation, which was fine and I think done on purpose. It's most definitely faster than the GSIII, Note 2 and iPhone 5, no questions about it.
Having said that, the L Series I tried was very fresh. But even compared to a new GSIII or Note 2, it's no comparison.
2) I've never seen a Dev Alpha in person, so I can't answer the question unfortunately. The screen on the L that I used was extremely sharp and had awesome viewing angles, there was no colour fade at all. Nobody will be disappointed in the screen.
3) Didn't have a chance to play with the camera unfortunately. This is important to me so I hope someone else can answer the question. Maybe I can get ahold of the device again later and report back.
I can't tell you (because I don't know) what RIM has planned for the N Series and whether they're focusing on the full screen L, but I doubt it. RIM knows they'll have diehards who will only buy the QWERTY and there's no way they'll alienate this super loyal customer base, I think they're focusing on the full screen L Series right now because that's the model that needs the buzz and they need the public to know that they're serious in the full screen game.
There's nothing wrong with the built quality of the L Series, I can't stress that enough. It's just that we've been spoiled by the 9900 with the metal band (which everybody is moving away from) and I'm preconditioned to think quality stuff has heft; if you take out this pre-conceived notion of weight = quality then the L Series is every bit as nice in feel as anything out there right now (minus the iPhone 5, which isn't as nice in feel as the 4/4S IMO).
Don't worry here, nobody will ever pick up an L Series and think "man this phone feels cheap".
- CrackBerry Master
12-20-12, 12:48 AM #58
- 1,111 Posts
When you open the BB Hub it doesn't follow your finger 100% but instead has a slight rubberband feel to the animation
I noticed the "rubberband feel" to the BB hub as well from the few videos posted online. Any specific reason to that?
How would the dimensions compare to the SGIII?
- 12-20-12, 01:05 AM #59
I think one of the best quotes I've heard or read from Thor is that RIM knows that they have the 'Qwerty experience' mastered, they've prove that over and over again and customers don't need to be reminded about that. Instead they wanted to focus and prove to the world that they can create a "Full-touch" experience. That's why there's so much push for the L-series. A qwerty devices with a RIM logo will sell it self.
No other instances in the UI that I've found has the same rubberband feel. The Peek gesture follows your finger, same if you simply swipe from the launcher to the left to access the Hub; pretty certain the rubberband effect is by design.
Much smaller than the GSIII. Best comparison is ever so slightly narrower than the 9900, but about 1" taller and 3/4 the thickness. I haven't picked up an HTC 8X, but it looks similar in size. It's also comparable to the iPhone 5, but about 1/4" wider, 1/4" taller and 1-2mm thicker.
Front, back and sides are totally flat.
That's it for now! G'nite everyone!
- CrackBerry Genius
12-20-12, 01:16 AM #61
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- 12-20-12, 01:35 AM #62
Last edited by Tatperson; 12-20-12 at 01:49 AM.
- CrackBerry Master
12-20-12, 02:16 AM #64
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Thanks for your answers, very informative.
One last question..
Can the phone keep up with the gestures? Couple of examples below of what I'm trying to say.
Example 1) Swiping from one pane to another such as a quick left-left swipe followed by quick right right swipes. If you've used the playbook you will know what I mean. It doesn't exactly keep up with the swipes, and it's the same when switching between running apps. It sometimes misses a swipe quickly switching between apps.
Example 2) Minimizing apps then quickly relaunching. Swipe up, tap (choose app), swipe app, tap (choose app). Can it keep up or will it miss gestures if it's too fast? Again, similar to the playbook.
Hopefully you understand what question I'm trying to get through here because it's hard to explain
- 12-20-12, 02:21 AM #65
Hey thanks for posting Fuzzy, I have a laundry list for you, but I'll cut it down to the questions you might have had a chance to look at on the phone. Did you get a chance to check out any of the following?:
Did you get to see the maps and navigation apps in action?
Custom contact labels for multiple numbers, email, IM etc
Can you add incoming sms or calls to contacts?
Good photo/image gallery?
Can you launch apps like phone dialer and maps from tapping plain text (NOT hyperlink) addresses and phone numbers on browser web pages?
Wifi must stay on when the screen turns off, did you get a chance to test the WiFi?
How was the copy/paste?
Car Dock interface?
Sharing pics, files etc, do you get the option to share with multiple apps, ie. photobucket, cloud, etc?
- 12-20-12, 02:32 AM #66
Universal Search? I know lots of people have wanted to know from reading past threads.
OH Just thought of another one. There was a Picture that people have spotted stating that for the Media Player active frame it had inside the controls....Did you see that If you played with the media player, by chance?
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