Peek and Glance

**JR A** · 06-22-2012, 02:38 PM

Just saw the vid on the CB homepage.

Quick question:

Will notifications be visible in the notification bar on top of the screen? If not, it kinda defeats the purpose of quick heads up by having to use a gesture to view how many emails, bbms, or texts messages i have.

I get the glancing back part, being able to see the last app/message you were viewing (which I LOVE by the way, cant tell you how many times I have to exit and revisit different emails/texts), but it seems a little more cumbersome to have to use a gesture to view how many messages I have vs just looking at the top of the screen.

**siddo_d** · 06-22-2012, 03:10 PM

That's exactly what I was thinking, i already requested to RIM that feature and they said "They will pass it on to the relevant BB10 team" they must feature a pull down notification centre or a centre in general

**antheauxny** · 06-22-2012, 03:18 PM

I'd have to agree.
They should add that feature.

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**gkl** · 06-22-2012, 04:19 PM

I disagree. I would much rather have it just like it is. Mobile devices have small enough screens that I would prefer as much space as I can get. While I like my 9930, I really miss the big screen of my S2.

I LOVE the proposed design and implementation of notifications. You are going to know you have something coming in with the LED flashing. If you are curious, you can peek into what it was. Then let it snap off the screen so you have all the real estate back for the live app.

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**louzer** · 06-22-2012, 04:31 PM

What I hope for is the multi-colored LED like in current BBs and either functionality like BeBuzz or at least an API for a 3rd party app like that. This way, you'll know you have a notification and, based on the color or the number of times it flashes, what kind.

I also like the red upper-left corner used on the Playbook to let you know about notifications while in apps.

**sir.dangerfield** · 06-22-2012, 04:51 PM

I really like the "peeking" on the PlayBook and I would like to see native Bebuzz options to go along with this. I prefer having each app in a full screen, 16x9 aspect ratio and doing a quick swipe when I need to handle my multitasking. It looks like the "peek" screen would leave us about 10% less screen real estate for apps if it were fixed to every screen.

**JR A** · 06-22-2012, 06:16 PM

The biggest thing I don't like is now I'm having to place an input (via gesture) to get information from my device that could actually be provided to me in a heads-up feature that is displayed at all times.

The whole point of BB is to help me be more productive. But if I have to remind myself to gesture/peek at what notifications are coming in, then I might as well use a different device.

The notification tray works perfectly as it is on existing BB's. I know exactly what comes in and I can decide if I want to handle it right on the spot without having to do anything.

**OniPod** · 06-22-2012, 06:22 PM

With the phone locked, or the screen locked, you have to make a gesture anyways.

I want my screen to be as clear as possible. Will still have the LED notifications present.

**anthogag** · 06-22-2012, 07:15 PM

I'm sure BB10 will have a cool notification feature/screen and when the user is using the phone peeking will be cool

The one hand peek

You're peekin me out

**gkl** · 06-22-2012, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by jranciano

The biggest thing I don't like is now I'm having to place an input (via gesture) to get information from my device that could actually be provided to me in a heads-up feature that is displayed at all times.

The whole point of BB is to help me be more productive. But if I have to remind myself to gesture/peek at what notifications are coming in, then I might as well use a different device.

The notification tray works perfectly as it is on existing BB's. I know exactly what comes in and I can decide if I want to handle it right on the spot without having to do anything.

this is the great thing about people. everyone is different. while it may not be native, would a pop up app solve your problem here? so much of these personal preferences can be taken care of via third party apps.

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**JR A** · 06-22-2012, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by gkl

this is the great thing about people. everyone is different. while it may not be native, would a pop up app solve your problem here? so much of these personal preferences can be taken care of via third party apps.

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True, everyone has personal preferences, and many can be pleased via third party apps.

But if BB is for people who "Do" just like the CEO said so, then why make notifications more cumbersome? Notifications are a BIG part of "getting things done", so why keep them hidden until gestured for?

Originally Posted by Oniberry

With the phone locked, or the screen locked, you have to make a gesture anyways.

I want my screen to be as clear as possible. Will still have the LED notifications present.

Not necessarily. What if I'm already on the phone? Instead of taking the phone away from my ear and looking at the display, now I have to gesture while I'm talking to someone just to see which notification came up (and not even actually reading the actualy message)?

And say my phone is cradled or in an iGrip when I'm driving? Now I have to swipe/gesture while driving to find out what that beep was for?

Or lets say the phone is screen locked. Now I have to unlock and then gesture to view notifications? What if I left my phone on the desk for lunch and didn't hear the beep and the led times out. I come back to my office and have no idea I have new messages...

Anyway, it SEEMS like a cool nifty thing to do to make people say, "heh, that's pretty cool," but this seems to me like a case of design getting in the way of function.

**calicocat2010** · 06-23-2012, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by jranciano

True, everyone has personal preferences, and many can be pleased via third party apps.

But if BB is for people who "Do" just like the CEO said so, then why make notifications more cumbersome? Notifications are a BIG part of "getting things done", so why keep them hidden until gestured for?

Not necessarily. What if I'm already on the phone? Instead of taking the phone away from my ear and looking at the display, now I have to gesture while I'm talking to someone just to see which notification came up (and not even actually reading the actualy message)?

And say my phone is cradled or in an iGrip when I'm driving? Now I have to swipe/gesture while driving to find out what that beep was for?

Or lets say the phone is screen locked. Now I have to unlock and then gesture to view notifications? What if I left my phone on the desk for lunch and didn't hear the beep and the led times out. I come back to my office and have no idea I have new messages...

Anyway, it SEEMS like a cool nifty thing to do to make people say, "heh, that's pretty cool," but this seems to me like a case of design getting in the way of function.

Unless you have the Advanced LED App set for a number of LED intervals or time intervals for the BB10 phone then you might have a point.

**mzceetee** · 06-24-2012, 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by calicocat2010

Unless you have the Advanced LED App set for a number of LED intervals or time intervals for the BB10 phone then you might have a point.

In truths,a 3 party app seems like a logical substitution, anyone have consider or gave thought in how many apps or if any that we as customer's have purchased or download on our prior device will work on BB10.

**JR A** · 06-24-2012, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by Oniberry

With the phone locked, or the screen locked, you have to make a gesture anyways.

I want my screen to be as clear as possible. Will still have the LED notifications present.

Originally Posted by mzceetee

In truths,a 3 party app seems like a logical substitution, anyone have consider or gave thought in how many apps or if any that we as customer's have purchased or download on our prior device will work on BB10.

But again, why should we have to download a 3rd party app to do a basic function that is ESSENTIAL to the ethos of BB, especially when the feature worked so well on the previous (stock) version?

Again, design getting in the way of functionality.

**yeohda** · 06-24-2012, 01:45 PM

I think that considering BB10 will be built on what we already have in the PB OS 2.0+ we can expect a similar UI. The homescreen has the notification tray at the top, with indications fir battery, signal, various connections (e.g. Wifi, BT, etc) as well as the number of emails and bbms and so forth.

When inside an app the screen is dedicated to that app save for the led as well as the glowing upper left corner to indicate when a notification has come in. If an app is open it probably means you are using the device and by extension, holding the device - a simple swipe on my PB fro the top right shows me the notifications and I can choose to act in them or slide it shut and continue using my app. I find this to be much cleaner and effective. If the notification tray was always present then aside from lost screen space, what about accidental touches that take you out of the app you're in? My two cents worth coming from my experience on the PB

**GTiLeo** · 06-24-2012, 06:26 PM

it may be light the playbooks feature where the top left corner goes red to tell you there is a notification. i'm sure RIM won't leave us without a way of knowing there is a message whole doign other stuff, that is also why there is an LED notifier

**Bairdo** · 06-26-2012, 10:02 AM

i'm trying to figure out how much of a novelty the peek feature will be other than looking at your notifications. from the videos i've seen, it doesn't appear as though there is a significant amount of info visible in the other apps you can peek back at from your main active app. Not sure how much i would use this feature other than for checking notifications because of this (not trying to slam the feature, if someone knows more about it please enlighten me. just an observation based on what i've seen so far).

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