1. Deckard79's Avatar
    Android apps on Windows Phone would be an ugly capitulation | Ars Technica

    Look at what they state regarding BB10 and Android apps. One for BBFactCheck, methinks.

    Also, the comments that clarify things re:BB10 are all voted down, despite being factual...?

    Very fishy.

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    07-14-14 11:25 AM
  2. Deckard79's Avatar
    Bump, as I think this article, coming from an apparently reputable source, is worthy of attention.

    Clearly no effort has been made to fact-check prior to publish.

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    07-14-14 11:57 AM
  3. Richard Buckley's Avatar
    Bump, as I think this article, coming from an apparently reputable source, is worthy of attention.

    Clearly no effort has been made to fact-check prior to publish.

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    So, have you reported it to BBFactCheck?
    07-14-14 12:26 PM
  4. Deckard79's Avatar
    So, have you reported it to BBFactCheck?
    Yep, although doing so appears difficult - tweeted BlackBerry with #bbfactcheck ...

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    07-14-14 12:47 PM
  5. Foreverup's Avatar
    This was posted already
    07-14-14 12:54 PM
  6. Deckard79's Avatar
    This was posted already
    Thanks for mentioning, however I am posting specifically about the inaccuracies in the article regarding BlackBerry and BB10.

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    07-14-14 12:59 PM
  7. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    Thanks for mentioning, however I am posting specifically about the inaccuracies in the article regarding BlackBerry and BB10.

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    What do you consider inaccurate?
    07-14-14 01:53 PM
  8. Deckard79's Avatar
    What do you consider inaccurate?
    "BlackBerry 10 supports (some) Android apps"

    The vast majority run perfectly last time I checked.

    "BlackBerry 10 can run repackaged Android apps, but only Java ones. Native applications must be ported to BlackBerry OS."

    How long since Android apps had to be 'repackaged'?



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    07-14-14 02:04 PM
  9. blee4's Avatar
    "BlackBerry 10 supports (some) Android apps"

    The vast majority run perfectly last time I checked.

    "BlackBerry 10 can run repackaged Android apps, but only Java ones. Native applications must be ported to BlackBerry OS."

    How long since Android apps had to be 'repackaged'?



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    No they do not run perfectly far from it try any app that needs google play services for example paypal or google maps and amazon.com you get that annoying message that says you need google play services.

    As it currently stands side loading android apps is NOT a viable solution for the average consumer. It's too complicated. Also a lot of the apps run slower and are prone to freezing for example mSecure that I use for passwords is so sluggish that I'm prompted to quit the app.
    07-14-14 02:57 PM
  10. tdaye's Avatar

    As it currently stands side loading android apps is NOT a viable solution for the average consumer. It's too complicated...
    It's a good thing that there hasn't been a need to "sideload" for some time now. Direct installation has been available for the past few updates.


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  11. Deckard79's Avatar
    No they do not run perfectly far from it try any app that needs google play services for example paypal or google maps and amazon.com you get that annoying message that says you need google play services.

    As it currently stands side loading android apps is NOT a viable solution for the average consumer. It's too complicated. Also a lot of the apps run slower and are prone to freezing for example mSecure that I use for passwords is so sluggish that I'm prompted to quit the app.
    Except that the vast majority of Google Play apps (and no Amazon ones) do not require Google Play services, so again... the vast majority run perfectly.

    Your second point - you don't have to sideload from 10.2.1 onwards.

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    07-14-14 03:22 PM
  12. noelwoodward's Avatar
    There's nothing wrong with the article... android apps with Google play services don't work most of the time. And before you go all "amazon apps don't require Google Play Services" on me, let me remind you that the author is talking about Android apps in general...the Amazon app store will only come preloaded with 10.3... he hasn't really said anything worth reporting...

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    07-14-14 03:53 PM
  13. Deckard79's Avatar
    There's nothing wrong with the article... android apps with Google play services don't work most of the time. And before you go all "amazon apps don't require Google Play Services" on me, let me remind you that the author is talking about Android apps in general...the Amazon app store will only come preloaded with 10.3... he hasn't really said anything worth reporting...

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    Except that

    1) the majority of apps even on Play Store do not require Google Play services. The vast majority of Android apps OVERALL do run, not 'some'.

    2) The second statement regarding the need to repackage Android apps is incorrect.

    Clearly therefore, the two statements are not accurate.

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    07-14-14 04:10 PM
  14. howarmat's Avatar
    the article is fine. You are being nitpicky. "some" covers them either way. The majority may very well work but using the word "some" is a correct statement as well.

    This is the other quote

    BlackBerry 10 at first could only run repackaged Android apps written in Java. More recently, BlackBerry has rolled out an update that enables some native applications to run directly, but the company says that they will work better if ported to BlackBerry OS.
    And again its fairly accurate as at first they did have to be repackaged to work. Now they native APKs can be installed and run just as they state.

    You are grasping at nothing IMO.
    07-14-14 05:39 PM
  15. Deckard79's Avatar
    the article is fine. You are being nitpicky. "some" covers them either way. The majority may very well work but using the word "some" is a correct statement as well.

    This is the other quote



    And again its fairly accurate as at first they did have to be repackaged to work. Now they native APKs can be installed and run just as they state.

    You are grasping at nothing IMO.
    Interesting that what you have quoted is different - looks as though they made an amendment to the article.

    I agree that this reads better.

    Don't think their use of 'some' is nitpicky as in my opinion it implies a minority that work, rather than a majority. The emphasis being on 'implies'. But we'll have to agree to disagree there.

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    07-14-14 06:00 PM
  16. noelwoodward's Avatar
    lol...can we close the thread now?

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    07-15-14 03:40 AM
  17. Deckard79's Avatar
    lol...can we close the thread now?

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    Sure

    (they did change the wording though!)

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    07-15-14 08:09 AM
  18. blee4's Avatar
    Except that the vast majority of Google Play apps (and no Amazon ones) do not require Google Play services, so again... the vast majority run perfectly.

    Your second point - you don't have to sideload from 10.2.1 onwards.

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    Snap is not a viable option as good as it is you cannot sell it as a solution it's a great workaround.

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    07-18-14 09:06 PM
  19. KenFletch's Avatar
    Some is a good word

    I have uninstalled MOST Android apps I tried. Some failed to run without any message of any sort. SOME behaved badly, like disconnecting my bluetooth. Some worked very well but I rarely use them.

    Have this with some official android ports too, looking at you Waze and Endomondo.

    So some is right, but some native apps are crap too but most native apps play well with others

    HTC TOUCH, Nokia-N97, BlackBerry Torch 9800, Z10
    07-19-14 08:25 AM
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    Some is a good word

    I have uninstalled MOST Android apps I tried. Some failed to run without any message of any sort. SOME behaved badly, like disconnecting my bluetooth. Some worked very well but I rarely use them.

    Have this with some official android ports too, looking at you Waze and Endomondo.

    So some is right, but some native apps are crap too but most native apps play well with others

    HTC TOUCH, Nokia-N97, BlackBerry Torch 9800, Z10
    Well barely any haven't worked smoothly for me. Not really any different to how I found it with my Android tablet - some didn't work on that either.

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    07-19-14 08:35 AM
  21. KenFletch's Avatar
    Well barely any haven't worked smoothly for me. Not really any different to how I found it with my Android tablet - some didn't work on that either.

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    There are so many bad android apps out there I cant tell if it is the android on BlackBerry or just android.

    I have kept most non ports I got from bbw and they are MOSTLY smooth like buttah.

    HTC TOUCH, Nokia-N97, BlackBerry Torch 9800, Z10
    07-19-14 08:48 AM
  22. Deckard79's Avatar
    Guys I'm not sure why this thread of mine has been revived - the main bit of the article I had a problem with was quickly revised to something more accurate.

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    07-19-14 11:49 AM

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