- CrackBerry Genius
02-02-2013, 07:57 PM #26
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BB10 is architectured differently, and most people thought RIM would do this when the PlayBook doesn't really use the Blackberry infrastructure before. Data compression's nice, but old BIS was for a previous generation of mobile networks. Why do things need all have to route through the RIM NOC? A lot of features people complain about the BBOS like email attachment size restrictions, email being stripped of formatting, etc. is a result of BIS. Also, service outages like the massive one in November 2011 won't happen with BB10 anymore...and I think that's a good thing.
What will be interesting to see is what RIM does about emerging markets. Obviously, it now creates two market segments. If you want unlimited BBM plans, you will buy old BBOS phones. If you want the additional features of BB10, then you will need to pay for more data.
- CrackBerry Abuser
02-02-2013, 08:12 PM #27
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It most definitely sucks.
For those of use with POP3 email servers, this means a massive increase in data usage as well we are forced from an elegant PUSH email architecture to a horrid PULL architecture. Batter life will suck will all the polling as happened to iFans prior to having PUSH email.
As well, for those of us in Canada that travel a lot the roaming data charges will kill us if we use the network.
BIS was an awesome and elegant solution that allowed Canadians to roam in the US and barely use their data plans. BIS allowed us to download headers only and as well had great filtering features to completely avoid emails. I already try and disable data and use WiFi as much as I can but sometimes it is not available and thus BIS is a real money saver on data roaming charges. Especially when the big 3 change how they round up data usage while roaming. It won't take long to blow through a $100 plan and I barely would use a $25 all because of the awesomeness of BIS.
Losing BIS for some of us is a major loss. Even if my mail was IMAP/Exchange, it still wouldn't give me the same facilities as BIS to control what is sent to the phone and have choice to manually download only what I wanted to read. Frankly losing BIS definitely puts us on a level playing field and I for one hate that we have taken a fall down to the level and lost our elite status.
Based on comments on other posts I suspect I am in the minority and with the step backwards I might as well compare the competition as I personally have lost the key feature that has made me a BB fan since my first BB in 2004. I was hoping mail on the PB wasn't evidence of what was fully in store for us with BB10 but guess I shouldn't be surprised.
Who knows, more than likely I will stick with BB as I have always loved their technology and phones but it doesn't hurt now to look at the competition now that we have fallen down to their level.
Last edited by BBJonbo; 02-03-2013 at 02:56 PM.
- 02-02-2013, 08:20 PM #28
Blackberry had no choice where the BIS service was concerned. Carriers demanded fees be cut with the new BB10 handsets, at least in North America and Europe. I'm sure we will hear more about this but at the end of the day I don't care as long as the phone works well and the BBM service rocks.
- 02-02-2013, 08:22 PM #30
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- CrackBerry Genius
02-02-2013, 08:39 PM #33Register here to provide feedback to BlackBerry and help stop BB10 from becoming an Android clone!
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- 02-02-2013, 08:46 PM #35
hmm interesting. They are using a compression ratio of 10:1 for emails, i was thinking BB compression was around 4:1
- 02-02-2013, 08:48 PM #36
That's why one has to shop around for the best data plans, if one expects to use a lot of data.
Prices on data are all over the place between diff carriers, retention rates etc.
Perhaps Crackberry.com can do a sticky on best pricing, something like gas buddy, or check redflagdeals.com etc
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- 02-02-2013, 08:51 PM #38Negative thinking destroys your brain cells and causes global warming.*- Dodinsky (The Scientific Institute of Get Over It!) Action Spots
- 02-02-2013, 08:57 PM #39
I get a ton more than 200 emails a month i know that for sure so i would blow thru 200 mbs a month in emails alone without touching the browser! lol
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- 02-02-2013, 09:29 PM #50
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