- People are complaining about Android performance on BB10. This would be an improvement on speed for the Android runtime running on BB10.11-08-13 04:44 PMLike 0
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Posted via CB10Pete The Penguin likes this.11-08-13 04:44 PMLike 1 - But why pack up shop? Aren't dev's competitive in their field? Make your app stand out, better than what's available elsewhere. What sense does it make to give up, and concede to the Android Dev's.
I wish people would see this for what it is "The Alternative". If we can't find your app on BBW, then you leave us no choice but to go to the Play Store.
And FYI, your app would be a great one to have. Backup's on the go!!! I'm not to fond of the cloud just yet.
I assume some devs will reason like you and continue updating and developing their bb10 apps.
For devs who have put in a lot of time, money and effort to develop native 3rd party apps, this would totally screw them and bring a substantial revenue source to 0 overnight
Posted via CB1011-08-13 04:52 PMLike 0 - There's no other way to look at this other than a HUGE kick in the teeth for BlackBerry developers by the company. I have learned cascades and was in the process of making an app that lets you backup and restore your entire phone from the SD card, but now that I've read this I will hold off any further work until I find out what's going on.
From what I understand about the relationship between reviews and downloads, the dev for Bemaps 10 pro has made at least $40k from that app alone, but obviously that revenue would quickly go to 0 if someone can just download Google maps directly. This is as an example.
I'd also feel pretty dumb about having spent close to $300 on apps, some of which are really awesome, but the fact is for most of them I can just get the same thing for free from Android.
Native BlackBerry apps are frequently very functional, but lack the visual appeal and robustness of many Android apps that have bigger devs. For an example download myshopi from bbw which is an android port. This is a good android port and you can see its visually appealing, it's a 16 mb program. Nothing native that's anything like this
Shopping List - myShopi - BlackBerry World
So at least in the short term this will totally kill native development because a lot of the good native devs are just going to say F BlackBerry and move on.
I recognize that it would be a great advancement for bb users and would take away one of the big impediments to selling bb10 phones. It would be a good move for the company, overall. But it's another example of blackberry shafting people who are loyal to them
Also I object to caitlinxd reasoning that they want to keep this under wraps because it would boost the stock price. So if this is true I really doubt that a bb employee told him /her that part, it must be his own reasoning. Such an announcement would have little immediate impact on blackberry stock price, because it's not clear that it will automatically result in greater profits for the company. This is from my substantial experience in the financial markets
They'd want to keep it under wraps
A) because they have not finalized exactly what they're going to do, and they want to control the flow of information themselves
B) protect the revenues of bbw until this actually gets released
Posted via CB1011-08-13 04:53 PMLike 5 - I personally don't know what I'll do yet, since I only read this today and don't even know if it's true.
I assume some devs will reason like you and continue updating and developing their bb10 apps.
For devs who have put in a lot of time, money and effort to develop native 3rd party apps, this would totally screw them and bring a substantial revenue source to 0 overnight
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Native > ported/android/etc.
There will always be demand for native apps.11-08-13 04:54 PMLike 3 - 11-08-13 04:55 PMLike 1
- 11-08-13 04:56 PMLike 1
- There's no other way to look at this other than a HUGE kick in the teeth for BlackBerry developers by the company. I have learned cascades and was in the process of making an app that lets you backup and restore your entire phone from the SD card, but now that I've read this I will hold off any further work until I find out what's going on.
From what I understand about the relationship between reviews and downloads, the dev for Bemaps 10 pro has made at least $40k from that app alone, but obviously that revenue would quickly go to 0 if someone can just download Google maps directly. This is as an example.
Native BlackBerry apps are frequently very functional, but lack the visual appeal and robustness of many Android apps that have bigger devs. For an example download myshopi from bbw which is an android port. This is a good android port and you can see its visually appealing, it's a 16 mb program. Nothing native that's anything like this
Shopping List - myShopi - BlackBerry World
Also I object to caitlinxd reasoning that they want to keep this under wraps because it would boost the stock price. So if this is true I really doubt that a bb employee told him /her that part, it must be his own reasoning. Such an announcement would have little immediate impact on blackberry stock price, because it's not clear that it will automatically result in greater profits for the company. This is from my substantial experience in the financial markets
They'd want to keep it under wraps
A) because they have not finalized exactly what they're going to do, and they want to control the flow of information themselves
B) protect the revenues of bbw until this actually gets releasedSDTRMG likes this.11-08-13 05:01 PMLike 1 - Pete The PenguinResident CrackBerry Wizard
Also, as BlackBerry use the Dalvik VM, it could spell the end for Android apps on BB10 as BlackBerry will likely have to recompile their runtime.
My Channel: Geeks United C00122408Anilu7 and hamsterwheel like this.11-08-13 05:13 PMLike 2 -
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- For this to even be remotely plausible, there would have to be a native version of Google Play Services built for BlackBerry. Until someone shows you a picture of that (current, and necessary version is 4.xx) treat everything else as an elaborate hoax.
FWIW, a friend at Google thought this idea was hilarious, and gave the picture of the play store 10/10 on the epic troll scale.11-08-13 05:26 PMLike 5 - I'm a dev and I like the idea to have both App-Stores available on BlackBerry 10!
There will always be a need for high quality native apps! And having native and Android Apps available in BlackBerry World is something I'm not happy with. As an Android Dev you have to update in both stores and on BlackBerry World you get negative comments because it's an Android port!
Native Apps are even the ones, that can be used on the BlackBerry balance enterprise BES side, where Android Apps are not available!
BlackBerry already has their runtime available in appworld as a separate App and it would be possible to link the Google Play Store to it, so with deleting Google Play you are able to have an Android free BlackBerry 10 device!
Posted via CB10Ruslan Botsyurko and SDTRMG like this.11-08-13 05:35 PMLike 2 -
- Interesting, but when I see pictures like that, I immediately think of how effortless it would be to fake them. We live in a world where all smartphones can take a screen shot. All you'd need to make those images is a Android, a BlackBerry 10 device, MS paint and a low quality camera to snap photos of the BlackBerry displaying the altered images from the gallery app. The entire thing could be faked in a matter of minutes with very little effort. Also, can't forget that whatever camera was used to capture those images could have been used to capture a much harder to fake video. A video of it working would pretty convincing.
Would be awesome if it turns out to be real, but I'm still not buying it.
Q10 and Canadian all the way! Q10SQN100-3/10.2.0.179111-08-13 05:41 PMLike 0 - Really? Are you sure? I mean there are a lot of people who paid $1.99 for a screenshot app for BB10 and also gave it good reviews. I'm just having a hard time believing it as if there is something easier that maybe not everyone knows about. Or maybe they just can't take a screenshot. I don't know either.hamsterwheel likes this.11-08-13 05:49 PMLike 1
- Really? Are you sure? I mean there are a lot of people who paid $1.99 for a screenshot app for BB10 and also gave it good reviews. I'm just having a hard time believing that as if there is something easier that not everyone knows about. Or maybe they just can't take a screenshot. I don't know either.
No, I don't think the WP operating system allows for it at all. This may have changed with WP8, but I don't think it did.
Anyway...
Q10 and Canadian all the way! Q10SQN100-3/10.2.0.179111-08-13 05:52 PMLike 0 -
- Pete The PenguinResident CrackBerry WizardFor this to even be remotely plausible, there would have to be a native version of Google Play Services built for BlackBerry. Until someone shows you a picture of that (current, and necessary version is 4.xx) treat everything else as an elaborate hoax.
FWIW, a friend at Google thought this idea was hilarious, and gave the picture of the play store 10/10 on the epic troll scale.
Though 10/10 is a little on the generous side on the troll scale
My Channel: Geeks United C00122408Last edited by CJH_; 11-10-13 at 05:34 AM.
11-08-13 06:00 PMLike 0 - Pete The Penguin and Saiga like this.11-08-13 06:04 PMLike 2
- For this to even be remotely plausible, there would have to be a native version of Google Play Services built for BlackBerry. Until someone shows you a picture of that (current, and necessary version is 4.xx) treat everything else as an elaborate hoax.
FWIW, a friend at Google thought this idea was hilarious, and gave the picture of the play store 10/10 on the epic troll scale.11-08-13 06:05 PMLike 0 - http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/ho...e-a-screenshot
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Q10 and Canadian all the way! Q10SQN100-3/10.2.0.179111-08-13 06:11 PMLike 0 - ***Hey guys I know in reading the posts it seams like people are saying the android play store on bb may happen rather quickly but Catlin do you think they may have this done to coincide with the USA Z30 release???? That would be awesome...11-08-13 06:30 PMLike 0
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