- Dear all . . . may I ask if PTCRB Certification matters a lot or a little? It appears that Q5, Q10, Z10, and Z30 were certified with Software Release Version: 10.2.1.537 (OS Version: 10.2.1.1925 Radio Version: 10.2.1.1899) and Software Release Version: 10.2.1.506 (OS Version: 10.2.1.1898 Radio Version: 10.2.1.1899) early in January 2014.
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The PTCRB was established in 1997 as the wireless device certification forum by North American Mobile Network Operators (MNO). Obtaining PTCRB Certification on a mobile device ensures compliance with 3GPP network standards within the PTCRB Operators' networks. Consequently, PTCRB Operators may block devices from their network if they are not PTCRB certified. CTIA has been assigned as the administrator for the PTCRB Certification process and is also responsible for the administration of PTCRB-issued IMEIs.
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PTCRB Certified Products
RFF91LW (BlackBerry STL100-3)
CER-48927-001 Rev 5 OS Version:10.2.1.1925 Radio Version: 10.2.1.1899 SW Release Version: 10.2.1.537 (SV=28) ECO Jan 8, 2014
CER-48927-001 Rev 5 OS Version:10.2.1.1898 Radio Version: 10.2.1.1899 SW Release Version: 10.2.1.506 (SV=28) ECO Jan 6, 2014
RFK121LW (BlackBerry STL100-3)
CER-48927-001 Rev 5 OS Version:10.2.1.1925 Radio Version: 10.2.1.1899 SW Release Version: 10.2.1.537 (SV=28) ECO Jan 8, 2014
CER-48927-001 Rev 5 OS Version:10.2.1.1898 Radio Version: 10.2.1.1899 SW Release Version: 10.2.1.506 (SV=28) ECO Jan 6, 2014
RFL111LW (BlackBerry SQN100-1)
CER-53012-001- Rev3-906-05 OS Version: 10.2.1.1925 Radio Version: 10.2.1.1899 SW Release Version: 10.2.1.537 (SV = 23) ECO Jan 8, 2014
CER-53012-001- Rev3-906-05 OS Version: 10.2.1.1898 Radio Version: 10.2.1.1899 SW Release Version: 10.2.1.506 (SV = 23) ECO Jan 6, 2014
RFN81UW (BlackBerry SQN100-3)
CER-53015-001- Rev3-906-03 OS Version: 10.2.1.1925 Radio Version: 10.2.1.1899 SW Release Version: 10.2.1.537 (SV = 19) ECO Jan 8, 2014
CER-53015-001- Rev3-906-03 OS Version: 10.2.1.1898 Radio Version: 10.2.1.1899 SW Release Version: 10.2.1.506 (SV = 19) ECO Jan 6, 2014
RFP121LW (BlackBerry SQN100-5)
CER-54352-001-Rev2-906-002 OS Version: 10.2.1.1925 Radio Version: 10.2.1.1899 SW Release Version: 10.2.1.537 (SV = 12) ECO Jan 8, 2014
CER-54352-001- Rev2-906-002 OS Version: 10.2.1.1898 Radio Version: 10.2.1.1899 SW Release Version: 10.2.1.506 (SV = 12) ECO Jan 6, 2014
RFR101LW (BlackBerry SQR100-1)
CER-54730-001- Rev2-x09-05 OS Version: 10.2.1.1925 Radio Version: 10.2.1.1899 SW Release Version: 10.2.1.537 (SV = 10) ECO Jan 8, 2014
CER-54730-001- Rev2-x09-05 OS Version: 10.2.1.1898 Radio Version: 10.2.1.1899 SW Release Version: 10.2.1.506 (SV = 10) ECO Jan 6, 2014
RFY111LW (BlackBerry Z30)
CER-56898-001 - Rev3-x06-02 OS Version: 10.2.1.1925 Radio Version: 10.2.1.1899 SW Release Version: 10.2.1.537 ECO Jan 13, 2014Last edited by yhamaie; 01-27-14 at 11:52 PM.
01-26-14 11:28 PMLike 0 -
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- It must be a "GSM only" club. Sprint and Verizon Q10s and the Verizon Z30 aren't on the list either.BigBadWulf likes this.02-02-14 12:40 PMLike 1
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When I would roam on CDMA, you got phone service. That was it. Most "digital" features didn't work.
Posted via CB10BigBadWulf likes this.02-02-14 12:46 PMLike 1 -
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Anyway, this line is quite interesting:
What does it mean? We don't see the two CDMA Q10s and Z30 on the list, but we very well know that they can be used on (GSM) networks they weren't primarily intended for.BigBadWulf likes this.02-02-14 12:59 PMLike 1 - As a former Verizon customer, though not for 8 years, I can attest to how the various CDMA systems do not play well with each other. There is a lot of discipline on GSM.
When I would roam on CDMA, you got phone service. That was it. Most "digital" features didn't work.
Posted via CB1002-02-14 01:03 PMLike 0 - It should be better now, no? With roaming agreements and GSM-CDMA phones (like the two Q10s and the Z30.)
Anyway, this line is quite interesting:
What does it mean? We don't see the two CDMA Q10s and Z30 on the list, but we very well know that they can be used on (GSM) networks they weren't primarily intended for.02-02-14 01:06 PMLike 0 -
But then, are there any other (CDMA) carriers whose phones can legallybe made to work on Verizon? Not sure on the CDMA aspect of it (I imagine it would involve flashing,) but I doubt there's any other carrier in the world using band 13 LTE.
OTOH, North American GSM ain't all that great either. We use some relatively exotic bands here (the 1700s, the 1900s, etc.)02-02-14 01:15 PMLike 0 - Right. Verizon flat out refuses to allow phones on their network which, in effect, aren't Verizon branded. You may buy them anywhere, but they have to be Verizon branded.
But then, are there any other (CDMA) carriers whose phones can legallybe made to work on Verizon? Not sure on the CDMA aspect of it (I imagine it would involve flashing,) but I doubt there's any other carrier in the world using band 13 LTE.
OTOH, North American GSM ain't all that great either. We use some relatively exotic bands here (the 1700s, the 1900s, etc.)02-02-14 01:23 PMLike 0 - We didn't have LTE 8 years ago. ;-)
But even today, you can't connect your GSM phone to Verizon LTE. Just go to the network setup, select manual, and the phone will scan for providers. It will see Verizon LTE, but you can't connect ever for emergency purposes. With my Tmob sim, I could connect to AT&T for emergency.
You can prove if you are connected by looking at the MNC MCC codes with apps or the engineering screen.
Posted via CB1002-03-14 02:14 PMLike 0 - We didn't have LTE 8 years ago. ;-)
But even today, you can't connect your GSM phone to Verizon LTE. Just go to the network setup, select manual, and the phone will scan for providers. It will see Verizon LTE, but you can't connect ever for emergency purposes. With my Tmob sim, I could connect to AT&T for emergency.
You can prove if you are connected by looking at the MNC MCC codes with apps or the engineering screen.
Posted via CB1002-03-14 03:45 PMLike 0 - But even today, you can't connect your GSM phone to Verizon LTE. Just go to the network setup, select manual, and the phone will scan for providers. It will see Verizon LTE, but you can't connect ever for emergency purposes. With my Tmob sim, I could connect to AT&T for emergency.02-03-14 04:14 PMLike 0
- I have this obsession with finding the physical location of towers and their identifying parameters, so I like to tower sniff. I can't connect in any manner to a VZW LTE. When I put the z10 with tmob sim in manual, scanned, then tried to connect to VWZ, it didn't connect. Mind you the phone put the emergency icon on the display, but when I checked the tower parameters, the phone had switched to AT&T.
The next time I am in a location with only VWZ, I will try to connect to any of their services. I did a search in an area with only VWZ already with the Z10, but that was prior to it being unlocked. For emergency use, I doubt locking makes a difference.
I do have a means to check Verizon LTE using SDR technology. The scheme is open source. I'm don't have that machine booted at the moment, bit IIRC the source code is on github.
Posted via CB1002-03-14 04:33 PMLike 0 - I have this obsession with finding the physical location of towers and their identifying parameters, so I like to tower sniff. I can't connect in any manner to a VZW LTE. When I put the z10 with tmob sim in manual, scanned, then tried to connect to VWZ, it didn't connect. Mind you the phone put the emergency icon on the display, but when I checked the tower parameters, the phone had switched to AT&T.
The next time I am in a location with only VWZ, I will try to connect to any of their services. I did a search in an area with only VWZ already with the Z10, but that was prior to it being unlocked. For emergency use, I doubt locking makes a difference.
I do have a means to check Verizon LTE using SDR technology. The scheme is open source. I'm don't have that machine booted at the moment, bit IIRC the source code is on github.
Posted via CB1002-03-14 04:48 PMLike 0 - For those who are interested in the recent OS upgrades for Q10 and Z10 devices sold through T-Mobile . . .
SQN100-5
Manufacturer: BlackBerry
Model #: RFP121LW (BlackBerry SQN100-5)
Supported Technologies
and Frequency Bands: E-UTRA FDD: Band 2/Band 4/Band 5/Band 17, GSM: 850/900/1800/1900, UMTS FDD: Band I/Band II/Band IV/Band V
HW Version SW Version Request Type Date Certified
CER-54352-001-Rev2-906-002 OS Version: 10.2.1.2228 Radio Version: 10.2.1.2229 SW Release Version: 10.2.1.2156 (SV = 16) ECO Mar 13, 2014
STL100-3
Manufacturer: BlackBerry
Model #: RFK121LW (BlackBerry STL100-3)
Supported Technologies
and Frequency Bands: E-UTRA FDD: Band 2/Band 4/Band 5/Band 17, GSM: 850/900/1800/1900, UMTS FDD: Band I/Band II/Band IV/Band V
HW Version SW Version Request Type Date Certified
CER-48927-001 Rev 5 OS Version: 10.2.1.2228 Radio Version: 10.2.1.2229 SW Release Version: 10.2.1.2156 ECO Mar 13, 2014Last edited by yhamaie; 03-15-14 at 07:16 PM.
03-15-14 06:56 PMLike 0 - For those who are interested in the recently (NOT officially) released Software Release 10.3.0.675 . . . for BlackBerry Passport.
PTCRB Certified Product Detail
Manufacturer: BlackBerry
Model #: RGY181LW (BlackBerry SQW100-1)
Supported Technologies and Frequency Bands:
E-UTRA CA: CA_4A-17A/CA_2A-17A, E-UTRA FDD: Band 1/Band 2/Band 3/Band 4/Band 5/Band 7/Band 8/Band 13/Band 17/Band 20
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS FDD: Band I/Band II/Band IV/Band V
HW Version: CER-59665-001 - Rev2-x05-05
SW Version: OS Version: 10.3.0.1052 Radio Version: 10.3.0.1053 SW Release Version: 10.3.0.675
Request Type: Initial
Date Certified: Aug 18, 2014
08-22-14 07:53 PMLike 0 - For those who are interested in the recently (NOT officially) released Software Release 10.3.0.738 . . . for BlackBerry Passport.
PTCRB Certified Product Detail
Manufacturer: BlackBerry
Model #: RGY181LW (BlackBerry SQW100-1)
Supported Technologies and Frequency Bands:
E-UTRA CA: CA_4A-17A/CA_2A-17A, E-UTRA FDD: Band 1/Band 2/Band 3/Band 4/Band 5/Band 7/Band 8/Band 13/Band 17/Band 20
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS FDD: Band I/Band II/Band IV/Band V
HW Version: CER-59665-001 - Rev2-x05-05
SW Version: OS Version: 10.3.0.1154 Radio Version: 10.3.0.1155 SW Release Version: 10.3.0.738
Request Type: ECO
Date Certified: Sep 2, 2014
09-05-14 04:11 PMLike 0
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