Do OS updates still go through carriers?
Does anyone know how OS updates will work for BB10? Will they come from BlackBerry or will they be released from individual carriers based on their timeline? Also, we will see leaked OS' for BB10?
- 02-04-2013, 11:35 AM #7-------------------------------------------
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02-04-2013, 11:37 AM #9
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I've only ever heard of OTA updates like the playbook and not carrier specific. But it could like BBOS, and Android where the ROM drops for an upgrade, but carriers have to test the ROM before they release it which sucks, and unless there is a way to root, and BBRY goes that way, the OS upgrades could be pain staking!!Be a follower, follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/quicksilv3r
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02-04-2013, 11:53 AM #11
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With the previous phones, the OS file was the same for all carriers regardless of who released it. The only difference was the vendor.xml that would accompany the carrier supplied OS to see only the device ID (the branding in the phone) it was for. Delete that file and you could load any carrier OS onto any other phone - as long as it's a compatible model.
While the OS has files needed for every carrier possible, another file would tell the loader which carrier your phone was tied to and load whatever vendor specific stuff was needed. T-Mobile, for example, had specific UMA files it needed while other carriers didn't.
And, contrary to popular belief, the carriers didn't add any bloatware to the OS itself. Carrier related weblink shortcuts came in via service books sent to your phone after the bootup from a fresh OS install. That's why your carrier's junk would show up even if you loaded another carrier's OS.
For the OPs question, we don't know yet. Supposedly, the OS has the ability to be updated in pieces, without the need to do a full OS install. A fix or upgrade to the radio stack may need carrier approval since that's how the phome talks to network, but a bug fix to, say, the way notifications work, could be sent directly to your phone without carrier involvement. At least, that's the theory. Whether that works in practice, we'll have to wait and see.___________________
- 02-04-2013, 11:57 AM #12
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02-04-2013, 12:36 PM #14
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Well, if the PB LTE is any example, it'll be carrier decided. It took slightly less than eternity for Rogers to release the 2.1 update (was about 4 weeks or so)
I have no faith that updates will be pushed by RIM and the carriers won't have a say. I love Rogers don't get me wrong, but they have WAY to much control over the market and will do everything possible NOT to play fairly.This message was most likely posted from my PlayBook LTE, or my White Zed 10, or perhaps my HP laptop on my 10's wifi hotspot. Point is, BlackBerry played a part in this message!!
- 02-04-2013, 11:16 PM #19
- 02-05-2013, 01:19 AM #21Carrier controlled updates is the worst smartphone spec of them all
- 02-05-2013, 04:16 AM #22
Seeing that Apple is the only company strong enough to say "F*ck you" to carrier, on-contract BB10 will need to go through carrier.
Even Samsung bows to almighty carriers.
Or you can just buy the phone unlocked and get pre-paid data. Seriously, it costs much less over two years.
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