[chasdrury]

So, there seems to lots of talk about what BB10 on the Z10 can do and can't do. In the UK, at least, networks are confused too. So, I got a Z10 and did some testing.

Z10 + MicroSIM with BES and 'normal' data package - connection to BES10 perfect which then syncs mail / calendar / contacts from the exchange server the BES box, but still the only open port to outside world is 3101. BBM is fine, app world working etc.

No one at T-mobile could tell me if i needed the BES APN - i had a SIM from a Lumia 920 - popped it in, no specific BB APN's prvisioned on that SIM and everything working as before. You can also set up ACtiveSync accounts directly to exchange without going via teh BES10 server if you can, as well as hotmail etc etc.

Hope this clears up some info for people.....

[felberry83]

And what about BIS does it act the same as BES? I mean if I use a simcard with a BIS plan on it.

[chasdrury]

And what about BIS does it act the same as BES? I mean if I use a simcard with a BIS plan on it.

you don't need BIS. just plain old mobile data.....

[7thedon7]

Is there any way you can give it a try with a BIS SIM card and see if you can use the browser without being charged for data consumption? Cheers mate.

[joeldf]

you don't need BIS. just plain old mobile data.....

We know that... We know it doesn't "need" it. We know it doesn't "require" it. We got it.

That's not the question.

CAN it still use BIS if you have it? Can pop3 emails be run through the BIS if you want it? Regardless of whether the phone can do it itself. That's the crux of the other BIS threads since the Z10 release in the UK that those of us in the US want to know - and have yet to have been given a straight answer from those that know... Like straight from BlackBerry.

[chasdrury]

OK, so i have BIS also provisioned on my SIM, i used to use it for OWA access to an account. There is no option on the Z10 to set up an account that would connect to BIS.

I have the options of:

ActiveSync
Work Account (BES)
Gmail
Hotmail
Yahoo
IMAP
POP
CalDAV and CardDav

So it looks like no.
Chas

We know that... We know it doesn't "need" it. We know it doesn't "require" it. We got it.

That's not the question.

CAN it still use BIS if you have it? Can pop3 emails be run through the BIS if you want it? Regardless of whether the phone can do it itself. That's the crux of the other BIS threads since the Z10 release in the UK that those of us in the US want to know - and have yet to have been given a straight answer from those that know... Like straight from BlackBerry.

[joeldf]

OK, so i have BIS also provisioned on my SIM, i used to use it for OWA access to an account. There is no option on the Z10 to set up an account that would connect to BIS.

I have the options of:

ActiveSync
Work Account (BES)
Gmail
Hotmail
Yahoo
IMAP
POP
CalDAV and CardDav

So it looks like no.
Chas

Thanks for checking. Sorry if I sounded a little snippy.

So, have you tried detecting your device through your carrier's BIS portal? I wonder if that is even possible.

[ladeberry]

what i would like to know is with ur bis sim in it , do u get charged like a normal data usage or does everything go thru the bis like before / pleaseeeee answer ?

OK, so i have BIS also provisioned on my SIM, i used to use it for OWA access to an account. There is no option on the Z10 to set up an account that would connect to BIS.

I have the options of:

ActiveSync
Work Account (BES)
Gmail
Hotmail
Yahoo
IMAP
POP
CalDAV and CardDav

So it looks like no.
Chas

[zeeten]

Thanks for the info. On BES10 do you have the same IT policy control as previous versions of BES (blocking specific apps or browser etc...)?

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[chasdrury]

what i would like to know is with ur bis sim in it , do u get charged like a normal data usage or does everything go thru the bis like before / pleaseeeee answer ?

The only way i can tell is going to the browser i do not connect via blackberry.net but get a t-mobile IP address. So i am assuming there is no data going via BIS or BES. I wonder if i can set the APN to point to BB though.... hmmmmmm

[chasdrury]

Thanks for the info. On BES10 do you have the same IT policy control as previous versions of BES (blocking specific apps or browser etc...)?

Sent from my BlackBerry 9860 using Tapatalk

At the moment it's very different. THere is an advanced policy pack coming out towards June. There is basic stuff but not as in depth as BES5. However, blackberry balance kind of negates teh need for policy anyway. Work side is locked down, personal side is opne. That's it.