- CrackBerry Master
01-31-2013, 05:27 PM #177--- BlackBerry Experience ---
- 1,395 Posts
Curve 8330 >>> BOLD 9000 >>> Curve 9300 >>> BOLD 9900
WTB: BlackBerry Q30 (The Ultimate BlackBerry)
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- 01-31-2013, 05:35 PM #17220.127.116.111-Finally have mobile hot spot. Welcome to 2010 RIMM
Torch 9810|Samsung Galaxy S4 |iPhone 5S|Nexus 7 Tablet |iPod 32gb
- CrackBerry Abuser
01-31-2013, 06:40 PM #181
- 212 Posts
I found this on the blackberryempire.com website posted 1/28/2013...if this is true, one of the most important features (at least to me) was the hosted email account, instant push notification and data compression.
RIM Publishes Details On BlackBerry Internet Service (BIS) 4.3 SP1
With the new line of BlackBerry 10 devices coming out in 2 days and more later throughout the year, RIM has published details on BIS 4.3 SP1. 2 key issues that RIM points out are dealing with unlocking, which has just become illegal in the United States. As far as SIM Cards on different carriers go here is what RIM had to say:
When a user changes SIM cards and the new SIM card is provided by a different mobile service
provider than the original SIM card, the user might not be able to use the email setup application to
lo gin to the BlackBerry Internet Service Email account.
BlackBerry email address forwarding:
• Research In Motion is transitioning away from providing hosted email services because there are many free email
services available to BlackBerry Internet Service subscribers. The forwarding solution available on BlackBerry 10
devices will provide automatic forwarding of email messages from the BlackBerry email address to another email
address for 1 year so that subscribers can receive email messages sent to the BlackBerry email addresses on their
BlackBerry 10 devices.
• Subscribers can set up a BlackBerry email address fowarding rule using a webpage or directly on their BlackBerry 10
devices. To set up forwarding information on the BlackBerry 10 device, subscribers are presented with an Email
Forwarding screen when they try to add their BlackBerry email address in Settings > Accounts.
• Subscribers who use their BlackBerry email address for their BlackBerry ID username will be able to sign in to their
BlackBerry 10 device, but they may experience some limitations receiving notifications. It is recommended that users
change the BlackBerry ID username to a different email address. Subscribers can change their BlackBerry ID
username on their BlackBerry 10 devices by going to Settings > BlackBerry ID> Edit.
• Subscribers who use their BlackBerry email address for their BlackBerry ID username must set up a BlackBerry email
address forwarding rule so that they can continue to receive the following types of email messages:
• Password reset email message required to reset the BlackBerry ID
• Notifications from BlackBerry ID
• Purchase receipts that utilize BlackBerry ID
• There is no change to how the BlackBerry email address functions on smartphones running BlackBerry 7.1 or earlier.Unlocked Rogers Z10 running on AT&T
- 01-31-2013, 07:54 PM #183
Hopefully, setting up pop3 accounts will remain the same as that is what we use in our business and it works great--even with the 10-15 min delay getting them. So I wonder if we will still be able to set up the forward to a BB email account from a pop3 account in order to get the push if wanted?
- 01-31-2013, 08:03 PM #184
There is no BIS to push POP3 account messages to the phone. You could set up the phone to poll every 15 minutes, but that will chew up a fair bit of data and battery life.Heins: "We have only one opportunity to get this right".
Nope, it's not gone well.
- 01-31-2013, 08:22 PM #187
Also I saw that kbz1960 mentioned the new (used to be hotmail) "Outlook.com" email services which is a web-based email client and a very good one (uses push BTW) but that is entirely different than Window's Office Outlook. I have had the Outlook.com account on my 9810 as a back up email account in case my company server goes down but seldom use it--still light years better than Gmail and more security to boot. Thanks for the info.
01-31-2013, 09:06 PM #194
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Having follow this thread since its creation - this is just one giant loop - over and over, the same questions, asked differently - the same facts, repeated over and over. People reallllly need to read the entire thread before jumping in.
- Someone says Google's ending EAS support...
- Not if your a paying customer says another...
- WHAT THE FRIG MAN, HOW CAN A FREE SERVICE STAB ME LIKE THIS says another...
- To which someone replies with "You should pay or forward to a service like Outlook.com"
- "Too much effort" adds in another person.
- And then someone asks for a source for all of this..
- Various people discuss IMAP-IDLE support.
- Someone argues that Google isn't ending EAS support...
- Refer to the 2nd point, rinse, repeat... several times.
- CrackBerry Abuser
01-31-2013, 10:20 PM #196
- 166 Posts
We know that BB10 supports ActiveSync used by Hotmail/Outlook.com.
We dont know if it supports IMAP IDLE used by Gmail FROM TODAY! If you had push with Gmail before today you could have been using ActiveSync, which Google will kill off today.
Yahoo has some other push implementation I believe.
Anyway I am sure there will be an update pretty soon if it doesn't support Gmail push.
- CrackBerry Addict
01-31-2013, 10:34 PM #197
- 699 Posts
I found this on TechRadar:-
"With the PlayBook 2.0 - and future BlackBerry 10 handsets - you won't have to run a wizard on the device and connect to the BlackBerry service to set up your email any more.
Instead, you just fill in the email address and password for your email account, like any other device. If it's a common email service - or any server you've used with a BlackBerry device before - that's all you need to do.
If you're connecting to a work email account, you can click Advanced and fill in the details of the server, but it's still far simpler.
But the PlayBook doesn't connect directly to the mail service. BlackBerry software head Vivek Bhardwaj told TechRadar that PlayBook and BlackBerry 10 still take advantage of the BlackBerry infrastructure and servers but things are a lot easier.
"I can put in my Gmail account and what we do in the background is take the username and read the domain [from the email address] and we do all the heavy lifting to get the settings and do all the configuration and send that back down to the device."
The PlayBook works with standard mail protocols such as IMAP and POP3, but it also supports the popular EAS protocol.
This was developed by Microsoft (originally for Exchange; it stands for Exchange ActiveSync) but it's been widely licensed, and is used by Gmail and Yahoo as well as Hotmail. It's already supported by the majority of smartphones - Android, Windows Phone, Windows Mobile, Nokia, Palm and even iPhones.
In fact, RIM has been the only holdout, and currently you have to install third-party email tools such as AstraSync to use EAS on a BlackBerry handset or tablet.
Switching to EAS instead of RIM's proprietary push email transport is a major change, and it's something of a coup for Microsoft, especially when Bhardwaj praises it as an open standard.
"This is a shift in architecture, based on what we want to deliver as a company. The BlackBerry Internet Service and the BlackBerry Enterprise Server have served us well for the last decade.
"Over time, more consumers have latched on to smartphones, and enough of the industry is at that tipping point so we do need to be about standards. It's about open standards and an open ecosystem."
How BlackBerry email setup is getting easier | News | TechRadar
- 01-31-2013, 10:54 PM #198Heins: "We have only one opportunity to get this right".
Nope, it's not gone well.
- 01-31-2013, 10:57 PM #199
This doesn't change the fact that this completely screws up POP3 support that many of us use.Heins: "We have only one opportunity to get this right".
Nope, it's not gone well.
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