[jasperlin]

All their devices are documented in the startup script.
Colt is an abandoned/developer product that first made a showing last year. Revision 6 of this was sent off to developers as Dev Alpha.

The newest devices listed are Blackberry Nile and Blackberry CoolStream. Again, Snapdragon S4.

can someone explain a few things?
1) What is a start up script?
2) How accurate are these product descriptions within the startup script? Why would RIM be so silly as to leak that information?
3) Why isn't this front page news on crackberry? I'd assume knowing the name and chipset even if they were rumors would be blog worthy!
4) Per wiki, the S4s are already out on products! Were Jim and Mike giving us BS when they said the silicon for bb10 wasn't available yet? b/c it's sure as heck available now!

[xsacha]

I always assume that RIM would pick MSM8960 as their BB10 chipset, but after the Dev Alpha came out with OMAP4460 --- I am not so sure.

You're reading way too much in to this. It was always slated to come out with OMAP4460. They had the devices already designed and wanted the freebies to be as cheap as possible.
Just as, for the past several months, the final devices have been slated to come out with MSM8(6/9)60.

[xsacha]

can someone explain a few things?
1) What is a start up script?
2) How accurate are these product descriptions within the startup script? Why would RIM be so silly as to leak that information?
3) Why isn't this front page news on crackberry? I'd assume knowing the name and chipset even if they were rumors would be blog worthy!
4) Per wiki, the S4s are already out on products! Were Jim and Mike giving us BS when they said the silicon for bb10 wasn't available yet? b/c it's sure as heck available now!

1) Firmware startup script for Playbook
2) Very accurate as all their development devices tend to use this script.
3) I'm not an editor on Crackberry. They're not rumors but, whatever
4) The only product with the S4 right now is the HTC One X series.

[UrbanGlowCam]

1) Firmware startup script for Playbook
2) Very accurate as all their development devices tend to use this script.
3) I'm not an editor on Crackberry. They're not rumors but, whatever
4) The only product with the S4 right now is the HTC One X series.

Thanks for the info xsacha, and having good facts to back it up. I've heard the S4 would be the chipset that would be in the production device, and I'm glad that it's looking more and more like it.

But between the Nile, CoolStream, London, Colt, etc. can we expect any other differences in hardware between them that you might be familiar with? I'm sure the 4.19" screen at 1280 x 768 will stay final due to the Colt having it and keeping consistency for the developers.

Colt



London



So I'm guessing the Colt is older than the London. They look similar but show a slight evolution in design. Would it be right to assume the Nile or CoolStream will be the final device with an even more distinguished design and the S4? Being 4-5 months away from launch, I'm sure the choice of which device will be production has been made.

[samab]

You're reading way too much in to this. It was always slated to come out with OMAP4460. They had the devices already designed and wanted the freebies to be as cheap as possible.
Just as, for the past several months, the final devices have been slated to come out with MSM8(6/9)60.

Then they fired the 2 co-CEO's. A lot could have changed with the new CEO.

RIM could have ordered 5 million OMAP4430 chips for the Playbook and had 4 million leftovers --- which RIM renegotiated with TI to get the OMAP4460 for the BB10 handset.

Thorstein could have imposed a hard deadline --- which RIM can't afford to miss the 2012 holiday season without a BB10 handset. And the least amount of work would be to use the same OMAP family of chips.

You are reading way too much on a bunch of scripts in the firmware --- they could be dead projects from previous administrations.

[nyplaya610]

seems like RIM will still be behind. everyone coming out with quad-core CPU and a GPU while RIM will release a phone with a dual-core CPU. they need to step their game up even future to compete.

[samab]

seems like RIM will still be behind. everyone coming out with quad-core CPU and a GPU while RIM will release a phone with a dual-core CPU. they need to step their game up even future to compete.

Apple isn't going quad.

[xsacha]

The 8960 performs better than the current-gen quad-cores by the way.

[_StephenBB81]

seems like RIM will still be behind. everyone coming out with quad-core CPU and a GPU while RIM will release a phone with a dual-core CPU. they need to step their game up even future to compete.

Apple wont be going quadcore

The HTC X one decided to go Dual Core in North America

PC's heck still split between dual and quad core dual core outselling quad core,
I suspect in the smartphone world we'll see that happen as well, devices will take advantage of dual cores, possibly dual cores with dual virtual cores, QuadCore has no value IMO to the smartphone market

[MisterMe11]

The Qualcomm 8960 uses the new Krait architecture. This is roughly comparable to the ARM Cortex A15, and roughly 2x the performance of the Cortex A9. All the quad core phones coming out are using the A9. So RIM using a dual core 8960 will definitely not be behind

seems like RIM will still be behind. everyone coming out with quad-core CPU and a GPU while RIM will release a phone with a dual-core CPU. they need to step their game up even future to compete.