[f_d]

I have a Dev Alpha "A" as well as a Dev Alpha B running the full BB10 OS (vs. a limited developer build).. The Dev Alpha B is basically a "London" device inside a plastic disguise case (but with only 1G RAM vs. 2G for the retail device), whereas the "A" was mostly a Qualcomm reference design in a Playbook-like case (again, with only 1G RAM). What this means is that the London loader files will work with the Dev Alpha B and turn it into a fully functional (3G/4G wireless) BB10 device; parties in the right Beta programs have access to the full BB10 loader files for the Dev Alpha B. Now as for the "A", as far as I know, other than RIM insiders, there is no public access to full BB10 loaders for that device, but you can install the London loader files onto the "A" (no, it won't brick the device, at least not the older loader I used), which will give you a 90% functional device (WiFi only, 3G radio won't work), but there's actually a relatively simple procedure you can perform after this that will "fix" this situation and turn the "A" into a fully functional device (3G wireless only, as this device doesn't have an LTE radio, *BUT* you still need a LTE-compatible UICC SIM card to make it work).

I believe part of the reason I believe RIM has not released "A" loaders is probably that this device has never been certified for most carriers and I don't recall if it had FCC or other government approval numbers on it, the second reason is that with only 1 Gig of memory, neither the "A" nor the B have enough RAM to run at its best with full multitasking, etc: I crash apps on a much more frequent basis on the Alpha devices as the run out of memory, and in particular, the "A" is noticeably slower, which is probably the main reason why RIM is keeping these devices as developer test devices with stripped down OS to maximize the amount of free RAM..

<I'm Joking><Seriously, I really am joking here> If a Dev Alpha goes for $1000, I've got a Dev Alpha with full BB10 here, and it's got to be worth more than with the stripped down OS right? It's BB10, so it's got to be worth 10x as much, so first person to bring me $10,000 US cash offer takes it... Small, unmarked bills only ;-) </Seriously, I really am joking here></I'm Joking>

[chrissmartin]

Guys,i am getting very slow speeds for new dev alpha build (the one with hub working).
My net is working fine other files getting high speeds but bb build i get around 20kbps very slow.......

[greatwiseone]

Ya...after the drop of the Hub into the Dev Alpha OS, it's clear that 1gb is not enough. I just wish BB gave us a few more features....

[fbloise]

This would be great. I reckon the BB10 Dev A can works as a daily driver phone.

[borceg]

Can I get proper beta invite? Or it's ultra-super secret?

[TheMarco]

I asked on Twitter. They said the 1GB Ram in all the Dev Alpha prohibits running the full OS. Makes sense I suppose. We'll have to wait for our LE devices to come in!

[f_d]

As i said, it will run the full OS, I've got two alpha devices with the full, non-developer build, but with only 1G RAM, you really can't take advantage of the full multitasking capabilities, and end up with essentially a single app at a time or you risk the apps just spontaneously closing when you run out of memory.. If you can only run one app at a time, you might as well get an iPhone ;-)

[T-Joker]

As i said, it will run the full OS, I've got two alpha devices with the full, non-developer build, but with only 1G RAM, you really can't take advantage of the full multitasking capabilities, and end up with essentially a single app at a time or you risk the apps just spontaneously closing when you run out of memory.. If you can only run one app at a time, you might as well get an iPhone ;-)

how can we get this on our dev alpha's?dying for the full BB10 OS experience...

[xsacha]

Here is the latest firmware for Z10 Autoloader:
http://download.mce-sys.com/ROM/BB10...0x8700240a.exe

[T-Joker]

Here is the latest firmware for Z10 Autoloader:
http://download.mce-sys.com/ROM/BB10...0x8700240a.exe

If this works, i will shat my pants

I would kiss you if I could....

EDIT : Did you get it working on Dev Alpha?

[T-Joker]

Tried and the AutoLoader bombs out

"Error: This file does not match this device!"



Dammit....

[borceg]

Only these two "should" work on dev alpha (a or b)

http://download.mce-sys.com/ROM/BB10...0x04002607.exe
http://download.mce-sys.com/ROM/BB10...0x04002607.exe

note: I'm not responsible for ANY issues!!!

[airbatross]

Tried and the AutoLoader bombs out

"Error: This file does not match this device!"

Dammit....

Was it Dev A or B?

[T-Joker]

I have the Dev Alpha B.

Downloading the 0x04002607 files, seems like that is the identifier for Dev Alpha device.

Will report back in 40min or so....

[CatlinFD]

I have no home internet right now so cant download 1.4GB without raping my tether data plan so watching this thread closely.

[yalo]

Cool! i am dling it now too

[T-Joker]

10 min to go, i feel like a kid before XMas

[T-Joker]

I can CONFIRM.....Autoload.10.0.09.2372.0x04002607.exe working for Dev Alpha B!!!

[Ivan Renette]

PLEASE keep us posted.....

[Ivan Renette]

So, just connect and exe the file ?

[CatlinFD]

I can CONFIRM.....Autoload.10.0.09.2372.0x04002607.exe working for Dev Alpha B!!!

Screencap of "Software Version" under settings please. Take one by holding down volume up & volume down.

[Ivan Renette]

Screencap of "Software Version" under settings please. Take one by holding down volume up & volume down.

Not on DEV A ?

[CatlinFD]

Wait. 10.0.10.261 is old DevAlpha software and is NOT Z10 software.

10.0.9.2372 is official Z10. So I want proof that 10.0.9.2372 runs on DevAlpha

[CatlinFD]

Not on DEV A ?

What??

[T-Joker]

This is AWESOME!! All apps come pre-loaded....