[Jordss]

On the BlackBerry 10 phones, will BBM and other BlackBerry services still work if you havnt payed for BlackBerry services but still on wi-fi?

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[Uzi]

yups

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[afl777]

You don't need Blackberry Internet services...BIS....on BB10 phones. They use ordinary phone data. If you are prepared to use the phone just indoors you can use it with just wifi and without a sim. Of course that would not give you calls etc, but it shows how versatile the BB10 is.

So yes...you can use the BB10 with just wifi

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[Jordss]

So you're saying I'm paying for BlackBerry services for nothing?

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[bobshine]

So you're saying I'm paying for BlackBerry services for nothing?

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Ehhh well your paying I guess so that you can use it more than just at home

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[Jordss]

What? I thought you needed BIS on any blackberry when your outdoors? And not connected to wi-fi

My 9320 I needed it no matter what, wi-fi or no wi-fi

And my Q5 I thought you needed it for outdoors but if you was only on wi-fi you wouldn't need BIS?

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[cjcampbell]

Jordss, the legacy BB, you are correct. You needed your BlackBerry plan to operate fully regardless of mobile or wifi. With BB10, you don't need any special plans to operate. You should be getting the same offers as any Android or iPhone standard data plan available. Keep in mind, however, that you will need a higher data allotment than your previous BlackBerry plan as there isn't the data compression.

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[bobshine]

What? I thought you needed BIS on any blackberry when your outdoors? And not connected to wi-fi

My 9320 I needed it no matter what, wi-fi or no wi-fi

And my Q5 I thought you needed it for outdoors but if you was only on wi-fi you wouldn't need BIS?

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Yeah! BlackBerry 10 is totally different than the old BBOS. It can work without BIS.

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[Jordss]

Ahh dam, I better get de-activating my BlackBerry services then, save 5 pound haha

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[afl777]

Ahh dam, I better get de-activating my BlackBerry services then, save 5 pound haha

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You will need an ordinary data plan...as someone else mentioned...the sort android etc use. Have a look on your network website to see what plans they have before you ring to cancel the BIS

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[Jordss]

How many MB would you say bbm uses a month?

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[cjcampbell]

How many MB would you say bbm uses a month?

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I had 500mb on my old BIS plan and never went over. With my new plan, I have 1gb and have come close a few times. I am probably an exception as I'm almost always on wifi. I'd suggest going with 1, know what the overage penalty is (mine isn't too bad), and decide as you go how much is sufficient for your use.

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[afl777]

How many MB would you say bbm uses a month?

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Well...I was scared daft when I got rid of my BIS cos the data compression had gone and I saw folks on here saying they had used 6GB a month...

So I did some tests. With the Z10 on the table just doing nothing apart from its few bits it did itself, it used 1Mb per day. But bear in mind I have everything set to manual....nothing syncs or updates unless I want it to.

When I started BBMing the most I used a month was 100 MBs. But it depends whether you do a few of a lot.

I have 1G of data allowance per month and I never get anywhere near that....but most of the day I am on wifi at home.

Don't have less than 1G....and if you are on social media a lot or browsing a lot have more. See what allowance you get and why you can afford and go for the higher allowance rather than just a bit.

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[Jordss]

Well currently I've got 500 MB and blackberry services, so having blackberry services will it cause more data to be used? Or will it have no effect at all and I'm wasting my money on it?

I do browse a bit and use bbm a lot, would 500 MB be enough?

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[thatplaybookguy]

If you're using it at home all the time, instal Bluestacks android for pc then get BBM for google play store and instal it and use it on your klaptop or pc/mac. No fees and the benefit of a full big screen and keyboard.

[afl777]

The BIS compresses data so the things you do on an older BlackBerry won't take much data.

The BB10 range don't compress data so you use more.

I would strongly advise not to go with less than 1g.

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[Jordss]

I've never gone over 500MB in a month with the Q5? Could the BIS be reducing the amount of data needed?

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[nhanken]

That extra 5 pounds can sure put a lot of weight on the monthly bill~! =)

Ahh dam, I better get de-activating my BlackBerry services then, save 5 pound haha

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BB10 devices no longer use BIS so it won't do anything unless you have legacy devices as noted by other members above.

I've never gone over 500MB in a month with the Q5? Could the BIS be reducing the amount of data needed?

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[cjcampbell]

I've never gone over 500MB in a month with the Q5? Could the BIS be reducing the amount of data needed?

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No. BIS is not used on BB10 devices.

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[Uzi]

No. BIS is not used on BB10 devices.

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some carriers can



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[gnirkatto]

I've never gone over 500MB in a month with the Q5? Could the BIS be reducing the amount of data needed?

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No. BIS doesn't get involved in your BB10 data traffic.

[EauRouge]

As has been said, for BB10 devices, YEP! Scrap that BIS and enjoy an extra fiver a month in your pocket

[Jordss]

I'm not even going to bother taking it off haha

I'm on o2 UK, Pay as you go... And it's top up 15 pound a month and get 500 UK texts, 500MB of Internet and BIS and keep your top up

The other tariff is top up 15 pounds and get 500 UK texts, 500MB of Internet and keep your top up

So I wouldn't be getting anything extra, pretty dissapointing tbh...

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[Jordss]

Wasn't ment to post this lol

[akabbani]

Ok maybe someone can help me out.

I've been trying to work BIS on my Curve 8520 so I can have a second whatsapp account. I put the sim I have in my current Q10 inside the 8520 and doesn't detect BIS (with or without wifi connected).

Can someone help? Thanks

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