- CrackBerry Genius of Geniuses
02-03-13, 12:44 PM #30
- 5,369 Posts
personally im using Xenozu, works perfectly as a youtube app, there seem to be many more in BB World, thats just the first good one i found lol.
it seems you can upload with it too, although i personally havent tried this myself.
- 02-04-13, 09:29 AM #32
I really don't think this would be high on the list of priorities for BlackBerry since the browser will play the videos just fine. Granted, an app would make accessing some features more user friendly on a small screen. Doesn't affect me much (or wont if I get a BB10 phone) as I don't use YouTube all that often but I can definitely see the benefit of a native app if you are a heavy user.
A native app will come down to two things. Either Google makes it or BlackBerry. If Google, they wont do it until there is enough of a user base that they can justify the time/money spent. This means you will likely have to wait a while (which while unfortunate is completely understandable for a new platform). If Blackberry, then again you will likely have to wait a while since they will have many other priorities on their list. As RIM/BlackBerry came out with a lot of great native apps for the old phones without waiting for companies to release them, there is hope there.
In either case, it will take time (again, unfortunate but nothing that can be done about it).
Anyone try sideloading the Android YouTube app to see if that works?
- 02-04-13, 04:05 PM #34
I know everyone says the browser experience is good enough for this.
I have an Android phone atm, and the YouTube app is great. One feature is the ability to preload videos on WiFi for viewing later. I have a 45min train journey to and from work with sketchy mobile coverage so this can be very useful.
Is there any way a mobile version can do this? I'm not trying to poke holes, just asking.
- 05-21-13, 05:21 AM #36
Absolutely no need for YouTube app at all, actually there is no need for 70% of the apps to be the apps since they are all rewrapped HTML5 websites and that's why we need powerful web browser on mobile devices, and that is the reason why iOS has crippled web browser they want you in the app store.
But this brings me to something else. We really need more tight cyber antitrust laws here. One amendment that says that all monopolistic digital services must exist on all platforms if they exist on one. In other words if Gmail has the monopoly of web based email and it has official app and EAS support on Android it should be forced to have that exact same thing on all platforms, if YouTube has monopoly on video streaming and it has official app on any OS it should have official app on every OS. Another example would be Skype as monopolistic VOIP provider, etc. Digital domain really needs this cause owners of OSes are using dirty antitrust tactics that would get them huge fines if they were doing this in "ordinary world".
- 05-21-13, 01:53 PM #37
- 05-21-13, 06:04 PM #38
Google: we offer the top email and video streaming services on the planet, for free. our business model doesn't even thrive on sales. We make more money on other platforms than we do our own.
Government: You have to make your applications for BlackBerry 10 devices, WebOS devices, Linux devices, Microsoft Devices, Nokia devices. We are going to need you to quadruple your development resources to cater to 8% of the global marketshare as a reward to your success.
That's a rather dystopian dream there. Forcing companies to create their experience for their competitors clients? How would that be different than the best salon in town being forced to do haircuts once a week at supercuts? The world you just described has no innovation or competition. It would result in an even more homogenized technocrat corporate powerhouse with no alternatives.
- 05-24-13, 08:06 AM #39
It's a simple matter of antitrust implementation of what is goin on in digital world today. They are abusing one monopoly to reach for the another, simple as that. The matter that it is a free feature doesn't mean jack cause those features are so big that they carry responsibilities. Hair saloon does not. Microsoft's Media Player was free bundled with Widnows but it was a breach of antitrust and MS paid for it. Once you go monopoly you are not in the same game as two dogs fighting it out, there is no competition or innovation. Example: Internet Explorer 6 which stuck around for years and blocked any progress of the web. You want another one? AT&T not going fiber optics in majority of the country because they just don't have to so YOU suffer from still living in 20th century.
Now lets elaborate about "world philosophies" that you interest you so much. Today's world is either ruled by government/army or business so there you have your "socialism" and "free market" crap theories. Being governed by Dems/Reps or Google/Exxon is a our reality, you will be governed by one of those two sides no matter what. The best we can do is try to strike the balance between the two, great companies like Google already get a lot from the government every single day, because they need each other, and asking the company to invest .000001% into "fair play" is absolutely nothing in digital domain.
And regarding innovation/completion its pretty obvious that MAJORITY is profit driven, if they see no money there will be no innovation, there will be nothing, people would suffer (see AT&T example above). My POV is that innovation should be driven by synergy of people who really want to move this world forward and understand consequences of their research, improvement and potential innovation. Yes you can say it's a principle of "Good Will" and I would agree but lets be realistic we should not look forward to it until all production and research process is a least 99% automated and human free.
My personal believe is that no human should waste their time and energy on tightening up the screws in some factory or serving other peoples food. Those "jobs" only exist due to flawed or should I say outdated mechanism that we live in, one that is solely responsible why we have well over 7 billion people on such a small place and why 6.50 of those 7 billion actually do not know whats their purpose and do not contribute at all but it's really not their fault. And I am almost positive that 99% of population still have that primitive primal instinct for alpha domination and hierarchy which puts people in vertical brackets.
- CrackBerry Newbie
05-25-13, 02:24 AM #41
- 8 Posts
Let me fill you in on the Google psyche.
Late last year when BB10 expectations were high and the buzz was strong, I asked a senior Google marketing exec on the sidelines of a social media workshop for Journalists about Google/Youtube's integration for future BB./
He said, as I quote "Google believes in the future and preparing for the future. And the way we see things, Blackberry doesnt seem to be a part of that future, so no point wasting any energy on it."
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