1. CrackBerry Question's Avatar
    Hello Blackberry fans,

    I don't like any of mobile phones I tried (iOS and Windows) so I was hoping to try the Z30 with BB10. Unfortunately, the hardware designers screwed up big time here: the LTE frequencies supported by the Z30 (Quad band LTE 3, 7, 20, 8 (1800/2600/900/800 MHz)) are not compatible with T-mobile's bands (1700MHz and 2100 MHz) and they don't seem compatible with ATT either (according to Wikipedia). Which makes the phone kind of useless for LTE usage in USA it seems.

    Sigh. I hope BlackBerry will take notice and update this phone with the right LTE frequencies before I decide to buy a OnePlus phone ;-)

    noLTE
    09-03-14 09:57 PM
  2. raino's Avatar
    You have either the STA100-2 or the STA100-6 model of the Z30. Neither was meant for primary use in NA, certainly not in the US. You would get LTE in Canada though.
    09-03-14 09:59 PM
  3. sourBerry1's Avatar
    Thanks for your reply, but where did you get that information for Z30 bands? I was looking right on the Z30 page specs for STA 100-5. You go to this page via Devices->Z30->Buy today> ShopBlackBerry.com store>Detailed Tech Specs (sorry but the site would not let me post the link). According to your info the bands will match (1700 and 2100) but that is not what their official tech specs say. I would love it if they just screwed up the info on their site and you are right, but how can I tell?
    09-03-14 10:41 PM
  4. raino's Avatar
    Whoa. Those are way off for the STA100-5 (This is the link being referred to in the previous post.) Looks like somebody screwed up on BB's website...again. Those are the radio specs for the STA100-2, maybe the STA100-6.

    The STA100-5 indeed does have both LTE band 4 and the UMTS 1700 band. My source for this information is the FCC filing for the -5 model. These are the bands the STA100-5 has:

    LTE 4, 5, 7 (1700, 850, 2600)
    HSPA+ 800/850/1700/1900/2100

    ...making it a perfect match for TMO. It's missing AT&T's LTE band 17, but it does have their bands 4 and 5. But like I said, this model wasn't radio spec'd for the US.
    09-03-14 11:17 PM
  5. sourBerry1's Avatar
    Hopefully they didn't screw up the FCC filing too :-) Can somebody that has the unlocked STA100-5 confirm that the phone connects in LTE mode to T-mobile?

    raino, thanks for the info, this encourages me to look at the Z30 again!
    09-04-14 01:11 AM
  6. ooklah's Avatar
    Hopefully they didn't screw up the FCC filing too :-) Can somebody that has the unlocked STA100-5 confirm that the phone connects in LTE mode to T-mobile?

    raino, thanks for the info, this encourages me to look at the Z30 again!

    Yep. I have T-Mobile and the STA100-5 model and get connection via LTE, HSPA+, and 2G. Many users on these forums have it as well.

    I'd share a screen shot but I'm on my Lumia at the moment.
    09-04-14 01:53 AM
  7. sourBerry1's Avatar
    OK, I just called Blackberry and asked them about the information on their Z30 page for STA100-5 and they claim that the information listed there is correct. So, no LTE?
    09-04-14 01:53 AM
  8. ooklah's Avatar
    I don't think they know what they're talking about.

    I swapped my SIM over. Here are some screen shots.


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    Posted via CB10/Z30
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    09-04-14 02:08 AM
  9. sourBerry1's Avatar
    ooklah, you rock! Thank you!
    ooklah likes this.
    09-04-14 02:12 AM
  10. eyesopen1111's Avatar
    OK, I just called Blackberry and asked them about the information on their Z30 page for STA100-5 and they claim that the information listed there is correct. So, no LTE?
    Relax, everyone! I've got a Z30, model STA100-5, and it gets LTE on T-Mobile USA perfectly. I'm in Houston, TX.

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    Z-30 / STA100-5 / 10.3.0.1130+1154/ T-Mobile USA
    09-04-14 02:18 AM
  11. eyesopen1111's Avatar
    I don't think they know what they're talking about.

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    Posted via CB10/Z30
    Off topic, but how did you get the blur effect to hide the sensitive parts of your screenshot? Which app did you use? I was going to provide the same shot, but didn't want to show my details.

    Z-30 / STA100-5 / 10.3.0.1130+1154/ T-Mobile USA
    09-04-14 02:23 AM
  12. ooklah's Avatar
    I feel it is also worth mentioning that everything on the device works as it should. Tethering, hot spot, MMS, etc.

    Posted via CB10/Z30
    09-04-14 02:23 AM
  13. ooklah's Avatar
    Off topic, but how did you get the blur effect to hide the sensitive parts of your screenshot? Which app did you use? I was going to provide the same shot, but didn't want to show my details.

    Z-30 / STA100-5 / 10.3.0.1130+1154/ T-Mobile USA
    Haha, it actually took me a minute to find an app to do it. I couldn't find anything in BBW so I decided to try Photoshop Touch since I bought it for my Nexus a while back. Downloaded it through Snap and it worked like a charm.

    Posted via CB10/Z30
    09-04-14 02:25 AM
  14. EchuOkan1's Avatar
    Whoa. Those are way off for the STA100-5 (This is the link being referred to in the previous post.) Looks like somebody screwed up on BB's website...again. Those are the radio specs for the STA100-2, maybe the STA100-6.

    The STA100-5 indeed does have both LTE band 4 and the UMTS 1700 band. My source for this information is the FCC filing for the -5 model. These are the bands the STA100-5 has:

    LTE 4, 5, 7 (1700, 850, 2600)
    HSPA+ 800/850/1700/1900/2100

    ...making it a perfect match for TMO. It's missing AT&T's LTE band 17, but it does have their bands 4 and 5. But like I said, this model wasn't radio spec'd for the US.
    Correct. I use a 100-5 on T-Mobile and LTE works perfectly. As stated above, you have the wrong information.

    Posted via CB10
    09-04-14 02:55 AM
  15. ThunderShock2005's Avatar
    Hello Blackberry fans,

    I don't like any of mobile phones I tried (iOS and Windows) so I was hoping to try the Z30 with BB10. Unfortunately, the hardware designers screwed up big time here: the LTE frequencies supported by the Z30 (Quad band LTE 3, 7, 20, 8 (1800/2600/900/800 MHz)) are not compatible with T-mobile's bands (1700MHz and 2100 MHz) and they don't seem compatible with ATT either (according to Wikipedia). Which makes the phone kind of useless for LTE usage in USA it seems.

    Sigh. I hope BlackBerry will take notice and update this phone with the right LTE frequencies before I decide to buy a OnePlus phone ;-)

    noLTE
    Hi. T-Mobile USA bands are actually 1700/2100 (AWS), 1900 and 700 Mhz. Their HSPA+ network is both 1700/2100 and 1900 Mhz. All areas where AWS HSPA+ T-Mobile is on, 1900 Mhz will also be on. (as part of their "modernisation" project... soon they'll refarm the AWS HSPA+ to only AWS LTE).

    If you want that Z30 to work with your carrier, you'll need an STA100-5. Or if STA100-1 is released. That's a totally different model you're talking about.

    But I say you get the OnePlus One phone. T-Mobile is no longer supported by BlackBerry so you'll really have a tough time overall. From what I've heard, it's a cool phone. Probably not for me, but it might be right for your needs. It looks pretty! Also, from what I heard, T-Mobile is STILL giving out a $350 rebate for trading in old BlackBerry devices, but super low key though.

    Really, the unreleased STA100-1 Z30 model is the one that would work with both AT&T and T-Mobile.

    Posted via CB10
    09-04-14 03:05 AM
  16. raino's Avatar
    But I say you get the OnePlus One phone. T-Mobile is no longer supported by BlackBerry so you'll really have a tough time overall.
    TMO does not carry or support OPO either. By the same logic, a user should have an equally tough time then?
    ooklah and ThunderShock2005 like this.
    09-04-14 09:11 AM
  17. ThunderShock2005's Avatar
    TMO does not carry or support OPO either. By the same logic, a user should have an equally tough time then?
    But I think OPO supports T-Mobile doesn't it?

    Posted via BlackBerry Q10 on AT&T

    EDIT: lol I just checked. OPO supports LTE bands 1, 3, 4, 7, 17, 38 and 40, and W-CDMA bands 1, 2, 4, 5/6

    You're right. Lol poor logic on my part. T-Mobile only partially supports OPO. Haha not even band 5 LTE. And band 4 and 2 W-CDMA are basically at the same spots for T-Mobile anyway.

    But, hey, let him get it if that's what he wants right? I'm sure he'll like it fine.
    Last edited by ThunderShock2005; 09-04-14 at 02:39 PM.
    09-04-14 02:28 PM
  18. raino's Avatar
    But I think OPO supports T-Mobile doesn't it?
    What constitutes an OEM's support for a carrier, beyond placing bands for their network? In that sense, the OPO is no better than the Z30/Q5. It's worse than the Z10 and the Q10 in that it doesn't support the WiFi calling or voLTE features that TMO offers.
    09-04-14 02:40 PM
  19. ThunderShock2005's Avatar
    What constitutes an OEM's support for a carrier, beyond placing bands for their network? In that sense, the OPO is no better than the Z30/Q5. It's worse than the Z10 and the Q10 in that it doesn't support the WiFi calling or voLTE features that TMO offers.
    Yeah I know. I already implied that OPO is not really supporting T-Mobile. Did you read my edit?

    Posted via BlackBerry Q10 on AT&T
    09-04-14 03:12 PM
  20. raino's Avatar
    Yeah I know. I already implied that OPO is not really supporting T-Mobile. Did you read my edit?
    Lol we were posting at the same time. Lack of LTE b5 (and to a greater degree, b2) indeed is a fail for a "North American" version of the phone.
    09-04-14 03:27 PM

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