1. srsBlackBird's Avatar
    If the company is "exploring" going private, then why don't we just buy the company? We, the subscribers; the bloggers, the brokers, the developers, the users and abusers.

    The companies current valuation has it at $1.5 billion. In the US alone there were between 18 - 20 million subscribers. Assuming that 18 million subscribers became 18 million subscriber owners, and BlackBerry sold all purchased and sold all outstanding stock in one day, that would generate $1.8 billion. It would also free the company of the current board members and management team. Of course we'd have to elect our own Board, and hire our own management team. But aren't any brave and enterprising BlackBerry People in the CrackBerry nation up to such challenge? There are companies like Delta and Nationwide who are owned by the people who they employ and who they serve, and are successful because of it.

    Interested?
    RoboticGolem likes this.
    08-26-13 06:04 PM
  2. howarmat's Avatar
    There might have been 18-20 million at one time but now that is down to about 9 or less. and its value is not 1.5 billion. Its closer to 10 at least
    08-26-13 06:30 PM
  3. srsBlackBird's Avatar
    We were both wrong about the valuation. The market cap is $5.4 billion. Still, with 9 million subscriber owners, they're looking to profit $1.29 million.

    Having written that, it seems odd doesn't it? If they go private, isn't it likely the board members and the management team will lose their jobs? A sale would generate revenue, but not enough it seems, based on prior examples from the management team that would make the case for any expectation of significant change for the better. If I were going to buy the company, I'd get rid of the management for all of the backtracking, delays, and missteps.

    That begs the question, "Why are they really considering selling the company?"

    #BlackBerryTorchBearer
    08-26-13 06:50 PM
  4. howarmat's Avatar
    We were both wrong about the valuation. The market cap is $5.4 billion. Still, with 9 million subscriber owners, they're looking to profit $1.29 million.

    Having written that, it seems odd doesn't it? If they go private, isn't it likely the board members and the management team will lose their jobs? A sale would generate revenue, but not enough it seems, based on prior examples from the management team that would make the case for any expectation of significant change for the better. If I were going to buy the company, I'd get rid of the management for all of the backtracking, delays, and missteps.

    That begs the question, "Why are they really considering selling the company?"

    #BlackBerryTorchBearer
    its undervalued. Remember they have 3 billion in cash alone on the last report. then you have the patents and everything else to add in on top. The stock price/market cap is not the true value.
    08-26-13 07:05 PM
  5. njblackberry's Avatar
    Then it certainly was undervalued last year at $6/share, and no one publicly nibbled then.
    08-26-13 07:16 PM
  6. SlcCorrado's Avatar
    its undervalued. Remember they have 3 billion in cash alone on the last report. then you have the patents and everything else to add in on top. The stock price/market cap is not the true value.
    For sure...
    08-26-13 07:18 PM
  7. Troy Tiscareno's Avatar
    Why Don't We Just Buy BlackBerry?
    Go right ahead. Anyone can by stock. If you buy enough of it, you get to make the decisions.

    Let us know what you decide.
    08-26-13 07:24 PM
  8. srsBlackBird's Avatar
    Go right ahead. Anyone can by stock. If you buy enough of it, you get to make the decisions.

    Let us know what you decide.
    Ok... I think that's what they call a "hostile takeover." While that is certainly one way to do it, I'm talking about doing something disruptive and much more volatile.

    As owners AND subscribers, we would also be both subscriber and partner with every carrier. I think that is a very interesting position. (Position is also a technical term for how much stock shareholders own.) That type of position could open up the prospects of BlackBerry being a manufacturer, an mobile computing company, and a carrier.

    Verizon alone has an estimated 107.7 million wireless subscribers. Of that, how many are BlackBerry users? It's a huge conflict of interest, I know, but it's not so impossible as to consider what would happen if, when you purchase a BlackBerry, you also become owner of the company.

    #BlackBerryTorchBearer
    Last edited by srsBlackBird; 08-26-13 at 09:35 PM.
    08-26-13 07:51 PM
  9. srsBlackBird's Avatar
    Then it certainly was undervalued last year at $6/share, and no one publicly nibbled then.
    That says a lot. When Novell went under, Apple, RIM, and Google split the patents among themselves. Why would no one be interested last year? Samsung's CEO all but laughed at the thought of buying BlackBerry last year, when Thorsten said then that a sale of the company was a consideration. It wasn't the first course of action then, but with so much to offer and so much to lose, even after modest gains abroad, why sell?

    #BlackBerryTorchBearer
    08-26-13 08:36 PM
  10. ranzabar's Avatar
    I've got a dollar

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    08-27-13 07:33 AM
  11. kbz1960's Avatar
    What will we do with with it after buying it?

    I don't think I want to be part of we.
    08-27-13 08:00 AM
  12. imz's Avatar
    What will we do with with it after buying it?
    We would remove the current management and give ALL the Armchair CEO's of Crackberry new jobs from PR, Marketing, Chief exec etc etc.

    Bagsy on CEO, after it goes private I'm selling BB and taking my share of $55million and going to the casino, all on red
    kbz1960 likes this.
    08-27-13 08:08 AM
  13. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    I can easily tell you what the Company has done wrong...IMHO. But if I were "risking" that much of my own money, I don't really have a clue what we would do at this point to turn things around. Because there isn't just one problem - and even identifying the problems, many of them are beyond BlackBerry's control currently. I think you would have to "invest" just as much in a long term "plan" as you would in buying the company to begin with. So say the you could buy BlackBerry for the $8Billion that was "talked" about last year, you would still need another $5-$8 Billion to fix the problems and to relaunch a new product next year.
    08-27-13 08:25 AM
  14. ranzabar's Avatar
    I want Alicia Keys job

    Posted via CB10
    08-27-13 08:45 AM
  15. imz's Avatar
    I want Alicia Keys job
    As the future Blackberry CEO, I appoint you to the post of Global Creative Director, whos next?
    08-27-13 09:04 AM
  16. ranzabar's Avatar
    Yea me!

    Posted via CB10
    08-27-13 09:30 AM

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