The Irony of Removing the Button Bar!
- I just wanted to post a comment about the irony of what blackberry did for me and probably others with os10.
By removing the track pad, call, and end buttons, they essentially forced me to adapt to a touchscreen device for text selection and other features. Other missteps such as no speed dial on release and no application shortcuts for the q10 showed me how to work around their issues.
I still believe the old blackberry design is superior and will try the q20. But what they have done is shown me that I don't lose any thing by moving to android. If any thing, I gain more apps.
I now have a galaxy s5 and the experience is so much better than what I had with the q10. Even typing isn't so bad. Only a day of use and I feel like I'm pretty proficient.
I hope someone at blackberry realizes that the hardware made them different and someone really screwed up by moving away from that.
That's it. I love blackberry, but they tried too hard to be like the competition to the point where there is no difference for someone like me now.04-13-14 03:07 PMLike 8 -
- I have my nephews S4 with me and the more I play with it the more I realize my Z10 is too small and bulky.
I love the BlackBerry 10 OS more than any version Android though. I agree BlackBerry needs to work on Hardware appeal. I still chose BlackBerry over the others. My Q10 balance me out
Posted via CB1004-13-14 03:41 PMLike 0 - I'd venture to say that if you find Android OS smoother than BB10 you either:
- did not / did not have to make optimum use of the BB10 as to take advantage off all it offers especially and above all - workflow
- are an app person that's finally made the move to app wonderland (no offence meant!)
I grab occasionally the wife's kitkat galaxy and every time leave it perplexed mostly as to how scattered the OS is. I might need more time with it, but I don't need to invest that right now as my BlackBerry does all I need.
I'd be curious though if you could elaborate a bit on the smooth experience?
Posted via CB10Last edited by Qurve; 04-13-14 at 04:02 PM.
04-13-14 03:52 PMLike 7 - 04-13-14 03:59 PMLike 3
- I'd venture to say that if you find Android OS smoother than BB10 you either:
- did not / did not have to make optimum use of the BB10 as to take advantage off all it offers especially and above all - workflow
- are an app person that's finally made the move to app wonderland (no offence meant!)
I grab occasionally the wife's kitkat galaxy and every time leave perplexed mostly as to how scattered the OS is. I might need more time with it, but I don't need to invest that right now as my BlackBerry does all I need.
Id be curious though if you could elaborate a bit on the smooth experience?
Posted via CB10pantlesspenguin and BB_Junky like this.04-13-14 04:01 PMLike 2 - I just wanted to post a comment about the irony of what blackberry did for me and probably others with os10.
By removing the track pad, call, and end buttons, they essentially forced me to adapt to a touchscreen device for text selection and other features. Other missteps such as no speed dial on release and no application shortcuts for the q10 showed me how to work around their issues.
I still believe the old blackberry design is superior and will try the q20. But what they have done is shown me that I don't lose any thing by moving to android. If any thing, I gain more apps.
I now have a galaxy s5 and the experience is so much better than what I had with the q10. Even typing isn't so bad. Only a day of use and I feel like I'm pretty proficient.
I hope someone at blackberry realizes that the hardware made them different and someone really screwed up by moving away from that.
That's it. I love blackberry, but they tried too hard to be like the competition to the point where there is no difference for someone like me now.
So you are pointing the finger at a puppet when really you can just rid yourself whole of electronic technology if you feel that deeply about it because telepathy was once the only language of life
Posted via CB1004-13-14 04:23 PMLike 0 - Great story, but why wouldn't you have tried the Z30, since you loved BlackBerry so much. Hmmmmm
Via CB10 Z30STA100-5/10.2.1.294704-13-14 04:23 PMLike 7 -
- I just noticed that you went with a 9900 because the Q10 was inferior. Now boom to a S5? Somethings fishy.
Via CB10 Z30STA100-5/10.2.1.2947anon721037 and wincyUt like this.04-13-14 04:33 PMLike 2 -
Posted via CB1004-13-14 04:34 PMLike 3 -
I bought a Z10 and subsequently a Z30 because of BB10. The OS *is* different from iOS and Android, and in my opinion, much better. The screw-up wasn't in moving away from the old style (though I have mixed feelings about bringing in the Q20), but in not adapting to changes in the market earlier on.
Posted via CB1004-13-14 04:45 PMLike 0 -
- The irony is that BlackBerry tried to cater to consumers wishes and then they (the consumer) turn around now and say I miss the old BBOS, when most kept saying how it was old and outdated and they wanted bigger screens with touchscreen capabilities. It's no wonder they are going back to their roots. How can you expect BlackBerry to understand what the consumers want when most consumers don't know either. It's a vicious cycle amongst consumers. That is just my opinion and don't expect others to agree. I for one, love the new BB10 experience.
Posted via CB10 - Z10 'Powered by BlackBerry'04-13-14 04:56 PMLike 9 - Totally agree!
And as to the 'going back to roots' which seems so much the 'rage' these days doesn't it by default mean go back in time and against the clock? Roots are supposed to be down there in the ground so that you can extract support from them but for something that has grown from them! Seems to me that the Q20 is facing a limbo start - and I can only see current Q10 users like myself giving it a try if it offers a larger screen.04-13-14 05:30 PMLike 0 - I just wanted to post a comment about the irony of what blackberry did for me and probably others with os10.
By removing the track pad, call, and end buttons, they essentially forced me to adapt to a touchscreen device for text selection and other features. Other missteps such as no speed dial on release and no application shortcuts for the q10 showed me how to work around their issues.
I still believe the old blackberry design is superior and will try the q20. But what they have done is shown me that I don't lose any thing by moving to android. If any thing, I gain more apps.
I now have a galaxy s5 and the experience is so much better than what I had with the q10. Even typing isn't so bad. Only a day of use and I feel like I'm pretty proficient.
I hope someone at blackberry realizes that the hardware made them different and someone really screwed up by moving away from that.
That's it. I love blackberry, but they tried too hard to be like the competition to the point where there is no difference for someone like me now.04-13-14 05:52 PMLike 0 - The BB10 OS is definitely superior.
Was trying to help my bro-in-law yesterday as his S4 wouldn't recognise his home wifi (kept saying disabled) suddenly after almost 1.5 years of working fine and we just couldn't figure out easily what to do (forget then re-scan for the wifi, wifi ping test, etc). Went on the internet to get suggestions and the only option that seemed to work was a clean wipe...which seemed extreme for the issue. Even my wife (who has an iPhone 5) was perplexed at the complexity of it all.
Have tried to encourage them to move to BB but the lack of apps (work related not games) seemed to be the bit stalling point and even with the porting ability now, it seemed why change over if I'm going to have to use an Anriod app anyway?04-13-14 05:55 PMLike 0 - The BB10 OS is definitely superior.
Was trying to help my bro-in-law yesterday as his S4 wouldn't recognise his home wifi (kept saying disabled) suddenly after almost 1.5 years of working fine and we just couldn't figure out easily what to do (forget then re-scan for the wifi, wifi ping test, etc). Went on the internet to get suggestions and the only option that seemed to work was a clean wipe...which seemed extreme for the issue. Even my wife (who has an iPhone 5) was perplexed at the complexity of it all.
Have tried to encourage them to move to BB but the lack of apps (work related not games) seemed to be the bit stalling point and even with the porting ability now, it seemed why change over if I'm going to have to use an Andriod app anyway?04-13-14 07:08 PMLike 0 - Workflow wise I'm handling it ok. The notifications shows me what new messages I have and I can respond to those quickly. The days of fast mult-select with the trackpad are dead, so the e-mail management is almost the same. They have toast like notifications for sms and I can reply right away, so I'm happy there.
More quick settings that I know what to do with on the s5.
The ONLY thing I really miss is the swipe up and left to the hub. And it's not so much the hub, but just the swiping fun. Now it's a button click, then click the email app.04-13-14 07:10 PMLike 0 -
And I'll correct myself, I like blackberry's hardware buttons and shortcuts for efficiency. OS wise, I'm pretty indifferent.04-13-14 07:15 PMLike 0 - I'm not here to write an essay of why Android of the s5 is better than BB10. Just saying that all the features that made the hardware efficient kind of died with BB10...leaving no difference for me between the q10 and the s5. With the screen as large as it is, I'm having no problem typing on the screen.04-13-14 07:17 PMLike 0
- I'd venture to say that if you find Android OS smoother than BB10 you either:
- did not / did not have to make optimum use of the BB10 as to take advantage off all it offers especially and above all - workflow
- are an app person that's finally made the move to app wonderland (no offence meant!)
I grab occasionally the wife's kitkat galaxy and every time leave it perplexed mostly as to how scattered the OS is. I might need more time with it, but I don't need to invest that right now as my BlackBerry does all I need.
I'd be curious though if you could elaborate a bit on the smooth experience?
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