[antoscimento]

I dunno what's different the Blackphone is from the rest of Android phones... I mean it's the same company that's reputedly had connections with the NSA etc... and not just some hackers and malware. what does the Blackphone offer in security when the company producing it and the software itself has security issues? And does Blackberry really need to consider a respond? Well dunno since its ALL about marketing maybe some shiny new phone or software update that gives the opportunity (even purchased) to have more security on ur phone. Just a thought.

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[bhrgvr]

I think BlackBerry should look into the workings of this phone, whether it is really secure or what.

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[chalx]

I'm certain that Chen is ready to blog their asses...

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[kbz1960]

Like no one else can make a secure system? Come on, there are already phones out there used in higher security profiles than any blackberry. Android can be and has been hardened for this, it's not the same android you walk out of the store with.

[dhs1000]

It will allow Boeing to sell the phones at $5000 each and ship in the $10,000 Toilet seat container.

DHS

[Cozz4ever]

Like no one else can make a secure system? Come on, there are already phones out there used in higher security profiles than any blackberry. Android can be and has been hardened for this, it's not the same android you walk out of the store with.

How?

Boot Locker?

I've hacked using hardwire right at the rom while controlling the clock cycles. They all pop sooner or later. Soldering skills are nasty. Check sums are the problem but not impossible. Just work up from there.

I would love to get my hands on one of these but $650 just to mess with is a bit steep for me.

[kirshan]

If you install the BES12 Android app on it, it will be as secure as any other Android phone.

Not the case!
When deploying an android app through BES 10 or 12 the administrator can set the permissions of the app, it's a lot more complex than just android or BlackBerry but rather what's more important is the environment that the apps are running in.

So if an android app needs access to something that the BlackBerry device is not allowing than the app simply won't run...

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[sentimentGX4]

Like no one else can make a secure system? Come on, there are already phones out there used in higher security profiles than any blackberry. Android can be and has been hardened for this, it's not the same android you walk out of the store with.

This so much.

Most (READ: nearly every) forumers claiming that Blackberry is more secure than the Boeing Blackphone or deriding the Blackphone's security have no idea what they're talking about. Aside from the fact that most of forumers aren't security specialists, the Blackphone isn't even released yet and there are hardly any details disclosed to the public. Fanboyism at its worst.

[java0317]

This so much.

Most (READ: nearly every) forumers claiming that Blackberry is more secure than the Boeing Blackphone or deriding the Blackphone's security have no idea what they're talking about. Aside from the fact that most of forumers aren't security specialists, the Blackphone isn't even released yet and there are hardly any details disclosed to the public. Fanboyism at its worst.

You have a really good point in that the blackphone has not even been released yet. But I'm not sure you have to be a security specialist to realize that android, as much as it has been improved for security, is inherently less secure than any bb OS, past or present. Ask any security expert.
I'm with you, though, that you shouldn't be a fanboy just because.
As for me, I'm looking forward to seeing how blackphone actually performs and how blackberry will meet the challenge. Competition is a healthy thing to have.
We'll just have to wait and see how things play out.

[java0317]

How?

Boot Locker?

I've hacked using hardwire right at the rom while controlling the clock cycles. They all pop sooner or later. Soldering skills are nasty. Check sums are the problem but not impossible. Just work up from there.

I would love to get my hands on one of these but $650 just to mess with is a bit steep for me.

As long as you actually have the skill (I'm not saying you don't), I'm sure somebody can find the way to get you a test subject once one is available. Heck, IF I was thinking of deploying blackphones in my company I would much rather invest a couple of grand to test it for vulnerabilities before investing much more in a bunch of unproven devices. Just saying.

[kirshan]

The human element is the weakest link

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[chalx]

In corporate world, you don't have to hack anything, just choose right approach to the right person and job is done. Stealing corporate secrets by hacking company mainframe looks cool in movies, but in reality its done over dinner in some elite restaurant.

[wincyUt]

In corporate world, you don't have to hack anything, just choose right approach to the right person and job is done. Stealing corporate secrets by hacking company mainframe looks cool in movies, but in reality its done over dinner in some elite restaurant.

Seems like you are speaking from experience, eh?

[kirshan]

And having fingerprint technology makes stealing stuff a lot easier, it's something that we leave behind everywhere, or could be used to gain access even if you were unconscious or even dead.

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[Bigbacala]

Black phone will have a self destruct feature in case it is stolen or lost

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[EchoTango]

As pointed out, it's not released yet and so we don't know yet what its got in it.

I suspect it will be a "hardend" device with specialized software that will impress the ultra (paranoid) secure crowd but not the general consumer. Ask yourself, how many corporate offices ended up with a "cone of silence" ? However, I'm sure some security consultant who scares the life out of some disaster bent senior executive will convince him/her to buy the thing. Boeing is not exactly known as a major smatphone provider so I suspect it will be a comercially available device with a special case with an added custom software layer.

As if Android performance wasn't bad enough !

[skibnik]

After all the Snowden leaks it's been proven that most if not all computer and/or cell phone OS'S have a built in back door that the NSA can use to snoop on users even BlackBerry has one as reported in the crackberry forums. It's built into the system so all this talk of which phone manufacturer is more secure than another is a whole lot of naval gazing.

http://forums.crackberry.com/showthread.php?t=895262

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[Bla1ze]

http://forums.crackberry.com/news-ru...kphone-945236/

[Tranamal]

@ skibnik, idk call me naive but I'll believe BlackBerry over some passerby leaving a comment about BlackBerry having back door. I have been following BlackBerry for the past few years for investment purpose and have never read or heard BlackBerry have back door, in fact I read and heard quite the opposite. The short position people always make claims that BlackBerry have back door but never offered proof, but just in their own opinions only.

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[chalx]

It doesn't matter if OS has or has not a back door, or is it hackable or not. If NSA knock at email providers doors, or service providers doors or any doors, those guys will give all data NSA requests from them. They will give data willingly or unwillingly, but they will give data eventually. NSA likes to hack things because they dont want public to debate about formal daya requests, but they will get data in one way or another. And we have heard only about NSA, but don't fool yourself, this is how things are working in any country in the world.

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[chalx]

It doesn't matter if OS has or has not a back door, or is it hackable or not. If NSA knock at email providers doors, or service providers doors or any doors, those guys will give all data NSA requests from them. They will give data willingly or unwillingly, but they will give data eventually. NSA likes to hack things because they don't want public to debate about formal data requests, but they will get data in one way or another. We have heard only about NSA because of the scale and global reach, but don't fool yourself, this is how things are working in any country in the world.




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[tinochiko]

It doesn't matter if OS has or has not a back door, or is it hackable or not. If NSA knock at email providers doors, or service providers doors or any doors, those guys will give all data NSA requests from them. They will give data willingly or unwillingly, but they will give data eventually. NSA likes to hack things because they don't want public to debate about formal data requests, but they will get data in one way or another. We have heard only about NSA because of the scale and global reach, but don't fool yourself, this is how things are working in any country in the world.




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Except Blackphone could only hand over encrypted data, whereas with the way BIS works, governments had access to unencrypted info... though this is not the way BES works.

BlackBerry's response should focus on the strengths of BES and the breadth of their provision

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[antoscimento]

Wow was just entering to start a thread about just that. Was wondering WHEN BlackBerry will reply to the Blackphone's last letter?

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[Iblamesummers]

i would like to know how much better a Blackphone is compared to an Android w/ the TOR browser installed because TOR on the Blackphone is the only thing that excites me about that phone.