Youths fed up with iphone - Nokia

[daveycrocket]

Just seen this thought it might be of interest.

Nokia: Youths are fed up with iPhone, baffled by Android - Yahoo!

The artical via pocket lint suggests that the young are fed up with the ipnone and confused by andriod.

It's to long to copy paste but a read which although about Nokia looks at a trend which to be honest seems to bear out stats in the UK.

[Fat Bastage]

Did you read the source of this opinion? It was this guy...

Niels Munksgaard, director of Portfolio, Product Marketing & Sales at Nokia Entertainment Global

Would you expect him to tell you anything otherwise?

[Caymancroc]

Nokia is a disaster.

This is like Steven Ballmer saying people don't like the iPad.

Who cares, they sell a bunch of them and are killing Nokia right now. Proof is in the pudding. Like it or not, Apple is the leader. They have the best device in terms of sales and satisfaction.

[daveycrocket]

Interesting first replies, UK stats do seem to reflect this though.

[Mikey_T]

Not sure about the veracity of the article but I sure like those new Nokias and WinPhone is a heck of an interesting operating system.

I'm on my last 'wait and see' cycle with RIM. Unless they have something really cool available by the end of next summer I'll be moving over to Nokia and Windows Phone for my next device. I purchased a 9800 because OS 6 was supposed to be the bee's-knees, then upgraded to a 9900 when that was supposed to 'leapfrog everything else out there'. I'm sick of marginal devices and endless waiting for basic features (wifi hotspot anyone??)

Anyway, Nokia's Lumia 800 looks pretty cool and the Lumia 900 should be out by next fall. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for an amazing BB10 but this time I'm not holding my breath.

Pretty slick:

[Economist101]

Originally Posted by daveycrocket

Interesting first replies, UK stats do seem to reflect this though.

Really. Hmmm. . .

iPhone sales in UK triple in October | Technology | guardian.co.uk

Pent-up UK demand for the new iPhone 4S meant that Apple sold more than three times as many phones in October as in any of the three previous months, eclipsing the rival Google platform, according to data from Kantar Worldpanel ComTech.

Data released by the research company show Apple's iPhone took 42.8% of UK smartphone sales in October alone, ahead of all Android phones, which took 35% in the same period. The figures from ComTech also show the UK market is shifting dramatically towards smartphones: sales of smartphones grew by 43% in October, but the overall phone market dropped by 4% in October as "feature phone" sales nearly halved.

Smartphones made up 69.8% of sales over the three months, meaning 44.8% of the British population now owns a smartphone. But it also leaves 29 million adults in the UK not yet using a smartphone – representing a huge opportunity for rival brands.

The research company says the October boost meant that for the 12 weeks to the end of October, Apple's market share of UK smartphone sales was 27.8%, compared to 25% in the same period a year before. The Android platform continued to increase its overall lead, powering 46% of smartphones in the 12-week period, compared to 34.2% a year ago.

The Guardian's calculations suggest that Apple's sales jumped nearly fourfold in October as the iPhone 4S was released. Tim Cook, Apple's chief executive, complained that ahead of the launch, sales had slowed down substantially as people waited for the expected launch of the new iPhone – which many expected to be called the "iPhone 5". For those three months, ComTech's figures showed the iPhone's share of sales dropping to just 18.5%. Android phones made up 49%.

Despite looking the same as the iPhone 4, which was released in summer 2010, the iPhone 4S has clearly boosted Apple's fortunes in the UK. Dominic Sunnebo, global insight director at ComTech, noted that 75% of sales of iPhones in the period went to people who already owned one – indicating strong brand loyalty among existing customers, but equally that Apple may not be growing its market as quickly as it might want, as the overall smartphone market grew faster than that 25%.

The rapid expansion of Android sales suggests it is reaching new users who have not previously used the platform or even a smartphone.

Other data from ComTech showed that for the three-month period, Nokia's now-deprecated Symbian OS made just 3.9% of sales, down by 10.2%, and the Windows Mobile platform – officially all but discontinued – almost vanished, making just 0.5% of sales. BlackBerry maker RIM also saw its share fall, to 19.6% from 20.9%.

Microsoft's new Windows Phone platform saw a small uptick in sales, to 1% of the market from 0.2% a year ago, when it had just been launched. The ComTech figures predate the launch of Nokia's Lumia range, which are expected to boost Windows Phone's share noticeably.

Sunnebo said: "The October launch of the hugely anticipated iPhone 4S has catapulted Apple into second place among operating systems based on the last 12 weeks of sales. However, if you just look at the month of October, Apple took a whopping share of all smartphone sales, giving it a significant lead over Android – a feat many thought was impossible.

"With nearly a year and a half between iPhone launches there has been huge pent-up demand for a new Apple device. We have previously seen that Apple customers tend to be very loyal to the brand. However, it is still astonishing that 75% of new iPhone 4S owners previously owned an iPhone. Most of these loyalists tended to own previous generation devices such as the 3G or 3GS models. However, 14% previously owned an iPhone 4, demonstrating that quite a few people bought themselves out of their contracts to get hold of the 4S. Clearly the upgraded processor, camera and unveiling of Siri assistant was enough to generate excitement among the Apple community."

Sunnebo continues: "While unwavering loyalty is clearly great news for Apple, it is likely to be a relief for other smartphone operators. With Apple predominantly driving sales from within its existing customer base, it leaves the field wide open for the likes of Nokia, BlackBerry, Samsung and HTC to focus on converting the remaining 29 million adults who don't yet have a smartphone to their brand."

[Rootbrian]

it isn't related to blackberry

[Adam Zeis]

Originally Posted by Rootbrian

it isn't related to blackberry

That's why it's in the iPhone forum

[grunt0300]

Originally Posted by daveycrocket

Just seen this thought it might be of interest.

Nokia: Youths are fed up with iPhone, baffled by Android - Yahoo!

The artical via pocket lint suggests that the young are fed up with the ipnone and confused by andriod.

It's to long to copy paste but a read which although about Nokia looks at a trend which to be honest seems to bear out stats in the UK.

Once again, an OP giving MISinformation, and grabbing at straws, just to stir the pot and justify their purchase (which they regret). Absolutely pitiful!

[daveycrocket]

Originally Posted by grunt0300

Once again, an OP giving MISinformation, and grabbing at straws, just to stir the pot and justify their purchase (which they regret). Absolutely pitiful!

I don't understand, Firstly my thoughts were around trying to understand the trends of young people, I was supprised that the young were confused by andriod. And how these trends would/may affect take up for BlackBerry, that was all.

I don't need to grab at straws and I don't understand your comment about mis information I simply passed on an articale which I found interesting.

Have I been disrespectful to you or any other posting person, I don't think so, have I been disrespectful to any platform I don't think so.

As working in the field of psychology I was simply interested in trends.

Finally I am neither pitiful or mad. I hope that you are not offended by my comments.

[daveycrocket]

Originally Posted by Rootbrian

it isn't related to blackberry

I believe it is, as if the trend is away from other platforms then other platforms will benefit by movements in trends.

[grunt0300]

Originally Posted by daveycrocket

I believe it is, as if the trend is away from other platforms then other platforms will benefit by movements in trends.

The articles posted in this thread by Economist101 and Fat Bastage, tell what's really happening in the U.K. Just curious how you managed to miss them.:roll eyes: That's what i meant by MISinformation!

[daveycrocket]

Originally Posted by grunt0300

The articles posted in this thread by Economist101 and Fat Bastage, tell what's really happening in the U.K. Just curious how you managed to miss them.:roll eyes: That's what i meant by MISinformation!

I missed them because they were not in front of me in any way. I do not spend hours looking through this stuff.

It's interesting that you feel sure about what's happening in my own country about young trends from an articale which doesn't mention young people.

My 16 year old daughter tells me about trends to do with her peer group which I feel is interesting, this is here and now stuff.

If you care to search crackberry you will find other articales on this which will back up and validate this latest articale.

You may wish to bury your head in the sand but I'm sure that Apple will view the articale as important so as to keep ahead of the game, after all that is how the excellent iphone has been kept current and innovative.

I note that you chose not to reply to my comments directed at you.

[grunt0300]

Originally Posted by daveycrocket

I missed them because they were not in front of me in any way. I do not spend hours looking through this stuff.

It's interesting that you feel sure about what's happening in my own country about young trends from an articale which doesn't mention young people.

My 16 year old daughter tells me about trends to do with her peer group which I feel is interesting, this is here and now stuff.

If you care to search crackberry you will find other articales on this which will back up and validate this latest articale.

You may wish to bury your head in the sand but I'm sure that Apple will view the articale as important so as to keep ahead of the game, after all that is how the excellent iphone has been kept current and innovative.

I note that you chose not to reply to my comments directed at you.

So you are basing your statements on one article, and your daughter's peer group? That is no way to report reliable information. One group of individuals does not make or break a product. At one time, Blackberry was the choice of business professionals, but not so much anymore. People had said that iPhone was just for "gamers", but now Apple has changed people's perception about what a smart phone is all about. Take the time to look through the Wall Street Journal, or the equivalent newspaper of that caliber in your country, and you will see what real trends are all about. I'm sure that your daughter and her friends mean well, however, their imput does not make it a trend across the U.K., or anywhere else.

[mikos]

Some analysts have picked Windows Mobile to become the dominant or solid #2 mobile OS by 2015, so this isn't completely out of left field. With Windows still powering roughly 90% of computers in the world and their Xbox platform, I can't see how they can't climb to #1 or #2. I mean, Vista even has more market share than OSX from Apple.