- 04-29-2012, 01:38 PM #28
- 04-29-2012, 02:46 PM #29
I think the issue with iPhone 4/ 4S file sending, is that without the menu button, you can't easily attach a file. You have to go into Docs to go first and then create a separate email. I'm in an industry where I'm constantly sending media kits, spec sheets, artwork to clients, and that IS much easier on BB.
I own both the 4S and a 9900 - I see the benefits and negatives to both.
Siri is a flop as far as I'm concerned. it works maybe 50% of the time, and chews up a lot of data. For us Canadians that don't have unlimited data plans that's an issue.
You will get use to the virtual keyboard, but nothing beats the physical keyboard on the 9900.
Data Roaming charges - on 3 recent trips of a just over a week long, I had over $100 data roaming charges on Rogers, using my 4S. My wife, who receives quadruple the emails I do, had $12 in roaming charges from Rogers, using her 9810.
All this to say that I'm currently using the 4S, and I love the smoothness of the OS. However despite "there's an app for that", I find myself using the same 4-5 apps that I use on Blackberry: Facebook, Twitter, Weather (BeWEather), news
BTW, the Blackberry News app kills any rss reader on iOS, IMHO.Blackberry Bold 9900 / Playbook 32GB
- 04-29-2012, 03:45 PM #31
Specific apps depend on the user. I hated the Blackberry news app, but instead bought Berry Reader that syncs with my google RSS account. On IOS I use Feedler which has worked flawlessly since the first time I opened it.
Okay...I picked up the I-phone yesterday...I'm ready to throw it out the window today!! URGH!! Everyone says that it will get better. Here's the deal so far. The e-mail is NOWHERE as good as BB. It's not as fast. They could not even place my business e-mail account on the phone..said that I have to call. I got my mail much quicker with BB. Also...and I just may not know how to do this yet..it will not push my mail through until I go and click on the mail link. I hate that there is no LED notification light. The upside of their e-mail..it groups threads of e-mails together which is a nice feature.
The biggest possible deal-breaker of all for me is their calendar. It's ridiculous. It hides what the actual appt is and with whom. You need to go through far too many steps to find this information out. I need to be able to pull out my calendar and in 10 seconds tell someone if I am available at a specific time and date. I can do that with my BB. I can't with this. I am looking now for a better calendar app on the I-phone. This may not be a big deal to some, but I need my phone for three things..e-mail, texting and the calendar. The rest is nice...but all extra for me.
As for texting...this is the worst problem of all. It takes 4x's as long because I keep hitting the wrong buttons and such. Maybe I will get better and the sales rep suggested a stylus..but doesn't that defeat the purpose of having an I-phone? As for SIRI..I have mixed feelings. The only reason I might keep this thing is that I like the dictation feature. I can see how if you learn how to use it properly it can save a lot of time with e-mails and other things such as writing on message boards. I tell you though that "swoosh" sound when it actually sends a text is not cool. I had no clue that my texts were actually being sent!!
The upside...the apps and ease of uploading them. I was able to upload some Weight Watchers apps that I have been dying to have. Also, the camera and video are IMHO quite superior to BB. I also LOVE the GPS (maps) on this thing. It is pretty amazing and very quick. It's also very nice to wirelessly sync Itunes with the phone.
Anyway..thanks for your help. Not sure how long the I-phone and I will make it. I will give it a try if I can find a good calendar and am able to type better.
Last edited by classc1; 04-30-2012 at 08:00 AM.
- CrackBerry Addict
04-30-2012, 09:11 AM #33
- 891 Posts
The iPhone4 is not a world phone. So, if you go iPhone make sure it is an iP4S.
(if you are going to travel, consider that it does not allow battery swapping and also that there have been issues with the battery life:
Apple Confirms Battery Life Problems Are iOS 5 Related | Gadget Lab | Wired.com)
If you travel to places, such as Africa, where reliable power is not available consider a solar charger. I have one for camping and it will give you half a charge so it is enough.
The internet speed tests showed the iP4 in a tie with the Bold 9930 but the iP4S is about 1 or 2 seconds faster.
If you are considering an iPhone 4S just be mindful that it consumes data like no other
You can transfer music to the iPhone but it must go through iTunes. My main issue with Apple is their tendency to push you into their ecosystem and forcing you to go to iTunes is just part of that. They make it harder to convert music to MP3 format but were forced by the government to do this a few years back. Today, they are being sued by the Justice Department for price fixing e-books so just be mindful of the dynamics.
I'm a big BlackBerry fan so I would advice you to consider the Bold 9930 instead. It would be an upgrade from your current device in my view and you get to keep all the BB goodies such as data security, world phone, battery swap capability, real keyboard.My BlackBerry. Just love it, love it, love it.
- 04-30-2012, 05:11 PM #34
As I said, the iPhone can be useful, but out-of-the-box, coming directly from a Blackberry, there's much lacking. There's a reason I still prefer my BB for business, and why we're still issued BBs exclusively in the military. PUSH. Email/Push is never going to be on par with a BB - that's just one of those things that's like the sun rising... it just IS. I even ditched the stock Mail app on mine and went with Sparrow (and the Sparrow+ tweak)... still not as good. The same holds true for LED notifications and the calendar - there are some serviceable replacement calendar apps, though. Other aspects of the iPhone will become more comfortable for you. This is especially true concerning the keyboard. I'm a gadget addict, but I also had the benefit of having iPod Touches, so I was familiar with the interface, functions and gestures.
The camera on the 4s is arguably one of the best ever on a mobile device, and its media integration is second to none. Outside of those "nice" features, it sounds like you have a bit of deciding to do. What do you NEED in a phone, and does your current phone handle that for you? Keep the 4s, hope you adjust to it a bit, and hold out hope that some of your concerns are addressed in the "upcoming" iOS 6 update.
- 04-30-2012, 06:23 PM #38
You really need some more recent information
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- 04-30-2012, 06:32 PM #39
Maybe it's just me but there are plenty of things to like about the BlackBerry, it's email experience is not one of them. The Speed is comparable to my other devices but everything else about bb email is remarkably lacking.
Last edited by xandermac; 04-30-2012 at 06:36 PM.
- CrackBerry Addict
05-01-2012, 12:14 AM #40
- 891 Posts
I read your comments on the frustration with the iPhone calendar and e-mail. Did you know you can launch the calendar on a BB by just hitting the L? That is it. There is no faster way to get to the calendar on any device that does not have a physical keyboard.
Further, if you use AccuWeather you can see the weather on the calendar itself. This is a typical BlackBerry feature that is not flashy but saves time.
I suggest you return the iPhone and try a Bold 9930 and then decide which one you like better.
But, I've tried the iPhone (hated the e-mail and calendar), then a droid (HTC Evo 4G), then I came back running to BlackBerry with the Torch 9800 (it is much slower than the current Torch 9810 or Bold 9930 but it was enough).
If your priorities are e-mail, calendar and texting then BlackBerry has the advantage. Not to mention the secure encrypted transmissions. BlackBerry is also giving away $77.00 in free apps for the upgrade.
If you like the iPhone then fine but if you find yourself missing some BlackBerry features then I suggest you at least consider the new OS7 Torches or Bolds.
P.S. At least BlackBerry is not currently being sued by the Justice Department for price fixing e-books.My BlackBerry. Just love it, love it, love it.
- 05-01-2012, 09:41 AM #41
As I also said, my iPhone is jailbroken, which has optimized it considerably. OP would just like a phone that does what she wants out of the box, without having to do a ton of extra tweaking. For her needs, she may need to keep looking.
Comments about "myths" are more ridiculous than most of the "myths" themselves. Telling someone about (or suggesting) the experience THEY are having with a device they actually do have and own, though... funny.
- 05-01-2012, 11:26 AM #42
Apple being sued for ebooks is NOT going to do anything to the iPhone. Only ebooks.
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- 05-01-2012, 12:32 PM #43I survived the Storm of 2008 and the PlayBook of 2011.
- 05-01-2012, 12:56 PM #44
I'm sorry, it is a myth (or complete bollocks) that BlackBerry has the fastest email. Place a number of devices together and you will see. The truth is it's no faster than any other modern system that uses exchange ActiveSync and it is severely lacking in other areas. I'm not trying to sway the OP, I personally think he will be better served with a BlackBerry but the email myth is one that died with exchange ActiveSync.
I own and use every major platform available today and they all push my email as well as the next guy. So yes I agree, your trying to tell me what works and doesn't work for me is pretty funny. Stick to the blackberry if it works for you but don't think you're experiencing some sort of mythical advantage in delivery speed.
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- 05-01-2012, 02:36 PM #45
I get email as fast (at times faster) on my iPhone than on my BB.Crackberry super member with posting powers no one else has and sooper sekret identities. Or so I'm told.
- 05-01-2012, 07:13 PM #47
I'm absolutely thrilled that you own so many phones. Bravo. I own a few myself, including every iteration of the iPhone (minus the 4s). My wife owns several others (including the 4s). Do I sit all of my phones side by side, as you obviously have (for whatever reason)? No. I HAVE noticed that my BB email notifications are instantaneous, whereas my iPhone emails are hit or miss, moreso than any other. Sometimes I get an update right away; other times I have to refresh my email in order for any new ones to appear. That's not up for debate; I don't care how often it works for you. I'm done with this little back 'n forth, though.
Back to the OP, as I said, every OTHER facet of the email system is probably better on iOS, but that Push isn't as reliable, and it sounds like you've experienced this for yourself. Sparrow is a great alternative - many more features than the already feature-filled stock Mail app. And as always, the JB community kicked it up a notch with a few tweaks. (most notably, Sparrow+, which adds push and Notification Center integration). As far as the notifications go, no, there isn't a handy LED, but there are a few things you can do with the notifications on iOS: have them present on your lockscreen for quick viewing, set the dropdown notification bar to manual removal, so that unread notifications remain on your homescreen, etc.
- 05-01-2012, 07:22 PM #48
The only times I can say it's worked rather seamlessly for me is if I already have the Mail app either literally open, or running in the system tray. Sames goes for my iPad. Funny thing, after I commented about not laying my phones next to one another to compare email responses, I realized I DO often have my iPhone and my iPad next to one another. The timing fluctuates, and it's random as far as which one gets it first. I don't count the little 5-10 second delay stuff - who really complains about that? But i've had times where I hear my iPad mail alert as I'm stepping out the door, drive to the store or work, and once there, FINALLY the same message makes it to my phone.
- CrackBerry Abuser
05-02-2012, 10:42 PM #49
- 185 Posts
I've been using my iPhone for about 3 months now and so far, I do NOT like touch screen devices because you have to precisely touch the right buttons or else you are turning something else on or off. But, when you touch the right buttons in the right order, it works fantastic. I'm still amazed at how fast 3G is on it. And of course, there's lots of great apps for it and Apple's app store (IMO) is much better than Blackberry's.
My dream phone would be an iPhone with a blackberry style keyboard on the ATT blackberry phone that slides the screen straight up so you have a full big LCD screen and the keyboard underneath and with a OS that has the underpinnings of IOS but with a mix of IOS and blackberry's interface as your user interface.
I miss the LED message indicator that my Curve had.
And one more iPhone complaint. For some reason, the iPhone is hard for me to hold compared to my Curve. The Curve seemed to fit perfectly in my hand whereas when I hold the iPhone, it doesn't feel secure in my hand.
Part of me would like to see Apple buy RIM and combine RIM's interface on top of IOS while building phones with blackberry keyboards.