- Fair enough. If they are out of earshot - for example if they go take a shower as you suggest below, they check when they get back to the phone. I admit that the LED in this case saves the average user considerable - maybe into the tens of seconds - amounts of time throughout the day not having to check their phones if they have an LED available.
So, you admit the entire paragraph about being able to read web posts without a blinking light was completely pointless. GOT IT.
True. I concede. The original question is indeed that, and I changed the subject to the topic that it isn't important that the iphone can't tell you and isn't an impact that it can't, and even threw in there that I would rather have the app ecosystem and development environment that iOS has rather than the LED that blackberry has - also not relevant.
Seriously, maybe I just send you a thank you card instead of a tip. It's too easy....
GOT IT!
It's funny how earlier you were going on about BlackBerry people being "annoying" by responding to their silent blinking phones, but then point out that your preferred advantage is to SPEAK OUT LOUD to your phone...just to ask if there is any message....so it can SPEAK OUT LOUD back you. Priceless.
Apology accepted.10-19-14 08:10 PMLike 0 - Imagine how much those seconds are worth to an...."executive". Especially if they forget to check.
Of course it will. If you're in the office...and you have it silenced but right in front of you....you can clearly see it alerting you. Then you're distracted by the (insert a brief distraction here) and you turn your head back sometime after the screen times out. But I'm sure you'll dismiss this as something that ....for you...is "not a big deal".
Technically, I suppose, it was an LED notification because the backlight is LED. I also suppose it might be possible for apple to illuminate a single LED in the backlight for the same effect if they really wanted but they haven't yet. ( <=== prior art, in case a patent ever arises for this)
Cool, so for the 3 seconds you save (at the expense of the person next you that you just disturbed) at 4:30am, you lose those 3 seconds many, many times over throughout the day, and if you're lucky, don't miss some message that says" Please reply in the next 5 minutes to close the deal". GOT IT!
For me, it's no impact. For a hypothetical user (or real user that hasn't yet commented in the thread) it could be an impact. The answer of how it's dealt with then is either "I check anyway" or "I *have* to check". For those users that are greatly inconvenienced by having to check, a blackberry might be an appropriate choice, if they can live with the other trade offs.10-19-14 08:29 PMLike 0 - Actually, I believe Glance is like the Moto X, that actually flashes on screen the type of message waiting (a mail logo, etc) instead of a blinking light....though the interval is more spread out. So, no interaction is required....just look at the phone.
But, how does the LED help you if the phone is in a holster? (unless there is a space for it, I suppose) FYI, I think lighting a portion of a OLED screen might be even more efficient than lighting an LED.
I have always been able to see the glow of the blinking LED through the top of my holsters.
Posted via CB1010-19-14 08:38 PMLike 0 - Lol,.. no way can the processing involved to parse, render and display an icon and it's associated notification be more energy efficient than flashing a single low-powered electronics LED.
I have always been able to see the glow of the blinking LED through the top of my holsters.
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It's going to be really hard to beat a single LED though.10-19-14 09:01 PMLike 0 - Uh, what? Relying on it...for what?
Of course you don't....because you have it strapped to you body at all times..and when you don't, you routinely take those seconds to reach for it to check if you did. Some people like the repetition I guess.
Of course not. Unless you think having to check it constantly is a hindrance. (or charge it...but I digress....)
Because you've already been trained to do the iphone ritual anyway. Kinda like saying you gave up smoking but now must chew gum to have something to do...so it didn't really help.
AH....there it is....just as I predicted! The iphone apologist just can't help themselves....kinda like the instinct to constantly check the phone for missed messages.
If I only had a quarter for every time an iphone user says this.....gosh, I could send you a BIG tip.
Rereading the actual subject line of the thread, "how do iphone users deal with no led notifications" makes it not quite pointless. I am an iphone user, and I'm commenting on a specific way that I deal with no LED - I carry my phone with me. It works for me. I realize I am a single iPhone user rather than "iphone users" in general but no one has posted any actual study on how iPhone users interact with their phones yet, and I presume that specific user information would be fine to post as part of the thread.
Wait...why would ANYONE ever want this? Because, they can just ASK their phone in a normal speaking voice if there is anything they missed and wait for it to talk back. Seems so much more efficient that just TURNING YOUR EYEBALLS.. Hail, Jobs. Hail, Jobs.
HOWEVER, you can imagine that not everyone has their phone strapped to their body at all moments, and there are times when it sits on a desk and you might walk away from it for a bit.....RIGHT?
The Jobs is strong in this one.Q10Bold likes this.10-19-14 09:18 PMLike 1 -
Here's the thing. You are inconvenienced if you HAVE to do something you wouldn't otherwise do....EVEN IF YOU CAN'T ADMIT IT TO YOURSELF. Now, perhaps you just LOVE to check your phone all the time instead of it just letting you know there's something that needs you attention...but deep down...I'm pretty sure there's an alter ego that would prefer to have less anxiety.
The Jobs is strong in this one.
If work were a chore and I did want to be detached as much as possible from it that might make it a little different.Residing likes this.10-19-14 09:36 PMLike 1 -
How can you POSSIBLY make this determination...unless you follow each and every one of these people ALL DAY LONG? The level of desperation to your argument is getting to epic levels.
I can imagine there are people who do leave their phones - sure. Those people must not particularly care about being very responsive or available. Which is fine - no one should need to be available 24/7. But for the people who attach value to it their phone is with them.
No, I don't think that. Why do you ask? However, I do find it entertaining when, after being being bashed over the head multiple times with the evidence hammer...that they change right before your very eyes. Pass the popcorn.
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But, what's this "check for email messages" that you refer to. You have to "check" for them? Wow. My phone just tells me. Just curious....do you have a doorbell, or do you open the front door every hour to see if someone is trying to visit?
Hail, Jobs. Hail, Jobs.Q10Bold likes this.10-19-14 09:57 PMLike 1 -
I do have a doorbell and notice when it rings. The doorbell, perhaps strangely, doesn't cause a blinking LED to activate to let me know that someone has visited.10-19-14 10:09 PMLike 0 -
Hillarious! This is too funny. Yes, those who don't have their phone in audible or visible range AT ALL MOMENTS OF THE DAY....must be unemployed! You keep topping your levels of epic desperation. Bravo!
So......what is it then? Please....I can't wait to hear this. Because you JUST SAID it was an argument. Which is also known as a debate.
It's the TOPIC of the thread. Nice try.
Of course you do. Because it's designed to be heard throughout the entire house, unlike your phone that might be set to a more moderate tone (or just on vibrate) that could be missed if you set it on the desk and walked out for 20 seconds.
The doorbell is loud enough to be heard even if you're not near it. Unlike most phone tones that come in quite a bit lower on the db scale for obvious reasons (something about being "annoying" comes to mind....I believe that was the term you used.)10-19-14 10:36 PMLike 0 -
Blackberry has come along but there are a few compelling reasons to not leave iOS and those might well, for many people, outweigh the advantage that an LED provides. Since the OP seems to have been asking how to deal with the lack of an LED on iPhone and the fact that he's posting on Crackberry would indicate that he might have already considered the user might choose a blackberry, is there any other way of dealing with the lack of an LED on iPhones other than buy a Blackberry?
As far as the doorbell comment, what if I happen to be in the shower when the doorbell rings and don't hear it? Is it a big deal that there's no LED blinking to let me know someone rang the bell?10-19-14 10:46 PMLike 0 -
Blackberry has come along but there are a few compelling reasons to not leave iOS and those might well, for many people, outweigh the advantage that an LED provides. Since the OP seems to have been asking how to deal with the lack of an LED on iPhone and the fact that he's posting on Crackberry would indicate that he might have already considered a blackberry, is there any other way of dealing with the lack of an LED on iPhones other than buy a Blackberry?
The OP was clearly USING A BLACKBERRY because he says so. And, he referred to iphone users....as "they".
The OP wasn't asking "how to deal with the lack of and LED on Iphone" because he doesn't use one. He was asking....and I think in a bit of a playful manner....how do those iphone users get along without one. I don't think he was actually looking for a real answer....since as you have made very clear for everyone following this thread....there is no real answer. You just have to miss stuff....or be like you and constantly check...or never, ever, ever, ever, leave your phone for even a second. Ever. EVER. EVER!
No, because no one is there. They didn't leave you any message. There is no reason to have any other alert since the person left without any message. The person who rang your bell assumes you weren't there and that you don't know they tried to reach you, and THUS DON'T EXPECT ANY RESPONSE. BUT....a message on your phone IS THERE. They assume you received it and are waiting for a response. This is really basic stuff here.10-19-14 11:01 PMLike 0 - No, because no one is there. They didn't leave you any message. There is no reason to have any other alert since the person left without any message. The person who rang your bell assumes you weren't there and that you don't know they tried to reach you, and THUS DON'T EXPECT ANY RESPONSE. BUT....a message on your phone IS THERE. They assume you received it and are waiting for a response. This is really basic stuff here.
You think it's not a big deal because in that case an LED isn't important because there is no chance at all that someone ringing your doorbell would leave a note on the door or a package at the door. I presume this is just different opinion based on different life experiences and neither are more or less valid than the other - you just don't have fedex or UPS or whatever leave packages at your door, and if it was a delivery attempt notice, you'll get it when you open the door anyway and it's not a big deal.10-19-14 11:09 PMLike 0 - Lmao the butthurt in here is real.
LED isn't even that great. Most of the time I grab my phone after the default number of blinks is up and I still have to check manually.
And the vibration of my Z10 is so weak. So, there's no way to telling I have a message unless I become a "slave" to my phone.
Posted via CB1010-19-14 11:17 PMLike 3 - Sure, that is possible, but another scenario, and not necessarily why people knock on your door. But, please, by all means, continue to PROVE MY POINT. (eats more popcorn).
There is no "opinion". I just explained the basics of how communications work. I didn't give any opinion.
First, the package doesn't require you respond to it. Second, it's likely you were EXPECTING the package. Third, these days you get updates when packages are delivered. Fourth.... how often do critical messages that should be responded to quickly (to help you make money, or are personal emergencies, etc) get left on your door step?
Your desperate attempt to compare this to a phone message has run it's course.
It's not a "big deal" because (AS I JUST ILLUSTRATED) the package doesn't care when you bring it inside. It's been delivered, and no response is expected by you. UNLIKE PHONE MESSAGES. You done yet?10-19-14 11:31 PMLike 0 -
I believe the phone now comes with an audible alert. Perhaps that will help you avoid missing messages and phone calls. But you should get the phone looked at if the vibration is weak.10-19-14 11:45 PMLike 0 - Jesus Christ people I asked a simple question, then I check back a few hours later and everyone is fighting over a completely different version of the question that I originally asked. Mods please close this thread it is now causing more trouble than it should. Thanks to everyone for their answers though
Posted via CB1010-20-14 12:02 AMLike 0 -
It is a must have feature for me.
I'm not going to enter the fray on justifying my response... too busy being a productive power user for that...
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Posted via CB1010-20-14 01:17 AMLike 0 - Nokia Glance screen 2.0 - take a peek - Conversations
You're kidding right? Glance is basically exactly like BB10 lock screen, except for the hand waving thing,.. which is a battery draining gimmick (why don't you just lift up the device if you're right there to wave at it).
The LED serves a completely different, which is to simply alert you that something new came in,.. without having to look at the screen, or even pull it out of a holster. You can even see it across a room... and of course it's as energy efficient as it can get.
Posted via CB10Residing likes this.10-20-14 04:11 AMLike 1 - Each time I set up a new Windows Phone Glance is the first thing that I deactivate. Really annoying. When I tell my screen to shut down, i want it to go black damn it!
Posted via CB10CDM76 and anon(4077577) like this.10-20-14 06:50 AMLike 2 - Jesus Christ people I asked a simple question, then I check back a few hours later and everyone is fighting over a completely different version of the question that I originally asked. Mods please close this thread it is now causing more trouble than it should. Thanks to everyone for their answers though
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- that having a blinking light makes you "annoying" (post #21)
- that it doesn't in any way help you know there is a message
- that people who don't get messages every 2 minutes 24/7/365 are "unemployed". (post #36 and #59)
- that a phone "lighting up" for a few seconds upon first notification is "the equivalent" to a blinking light that stays on for much, much longer. (post #32)
- that iphone users never walk away from their phones....ever (post #40)
- that it's more important to ask your phone if you have any emails and wait for a spoken response than just glancing at it at any time during the day.
- that...all "executives" (whatever that means) had a BlackBerry as their first phone (various posts) and that clearly they rejected the LED because of Iphone sales compared to BlackBerry sales.
I took him to task on this and various other things. The back and forth ensued until he finally used words like "I concede" and "sorry". He even said that you...the OP...don't use a BlackBerry even though you clearly said in your OP that you do. Read it...it's fun.
This simple answer to your question, obviously, .they must check the phone more often to deal with the lack of notification. But as valeuche indicates multiple times....that's not a big deal for iphone users because they have such a repetitive "habit" already (post #19).Last edited by redlightblinking; 10-20-14 at 08:03 AM.
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