[My Speculation] Only one developer is working on these core OS updates.

[slingxshot]

I am sorry to tell you guys. I am a developer, been one past some 8-9 years and the core OS updates/fixes are done by one senior developer. And these updates are not even high priority on his list. Probably he has a deadline and he stretches out his work over the time. My guess is that he works on some of the apps from time to time too.

I can tell you that the Android player is being worked on by another single developer.

And prob 1-2 more junior developers that work on apps.

That's it folks. I know I am speculating, but my gut feeling that this is it. You can disagree with me, but look what we got past 3 OS updates? NOTHING.

Truly sad RIM...

[frfghtr]

Originally Posted by slingxshot

I am sorry to tell you guys. I am a developer, been one past some 8-9 years and the core OS updates/fixes are done by one senior developer. And these updates are not even high priority on his list. Probably he has a deadline and he stretches out his work over the time. My guess is that he works on some of the apps from time to time too.

I can tell you that the Android player is being worked on by another single developer.

And prob 1-2 more junior developers that work on apps.

That's it folks. I know I am speculating, but my gut feeling that this is it. You can disagree with me, but look what we got past 3 OS updates? NOTHING.

Truly sad RIM...

So are you, guessing, telling, or speculating?

[slingxshot]

Originally Posted by frfghtr

So are you, guessing, telling, or speculating?

All 3. I couldn't tell you that from 1st OS and 2nd, but eventually you get a feeling and pattern what is happening.

[frfghtr]

I just figured that since Canadian summers are so short that everyone else was on holidays.

That's why we keep on hearing after summer when the kids are back in school.

Speculating on the last part myself.

[Intosh]

Actually, there's no developer working on the OS updates. The OS updates itself using neural networks.

I know because I'm a developer too.

[menaknow]

I am a developer too...

You might be right, or you might be wrong.

My gut feeling is a major release is heading for September/October as Kevin said.

If you look at this recent update, "Differential Updates" would make it easier to do an overhaul and add some missing features and make changes.

Also with DevCon coming by, I can see the NDK being a major priority. Along with the new OS7 device launches, I am sure other priorities were being worked on.

Either case as you put it:

Originally Posted by slingxshot

That's it folks. I know I am speculating, but my gut feeling that this is it.

Frankly, additions are welcome, but today the PB is doing what I need it to do...

[mandony]

Originally Posted by slingxshot

the core OS updates/fixes are done by one senior developer. ...
That's it folks. I know I am speculating,

Are you a RIM employee?

If you are, then, you better find another job. I have been told many times from RIM CS reps that they are specifically forbidden to interact with forums like this one.

I once heard similar comments from a friendly troll.

[sf18443]

Unfortunately, if it were one developer we would not have gotten any updates so far.

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[JustAnotherBeerbot]

1 developer. LOL. Thanks for lightening up my morning

[samab]

Originally Posted by slingxshot

That's it folks. I know I am speculating, but my gut feeling that this is it. You can disagree with me, but look what we got past 3 OS updates? NOTHING.

Truly sad RIM...

That's like saying Google put 2 persons on the Honeycomb 3.1 update --- one person responsible for the scrolling "multitasking" option (instead of showing just 5 apps now you can have a scrolling list) and the second person responsible for USB host driver.

[kb5zht]

You can disagree with me, but look what we got past 3 OS updates? NOTHING.

While we cannot disagree on the lack of appreciable development (the playbook is barely idling along, hardly moving), i dont speculate on the reason because to me its immaterial. Whatever the reason, its a fact, this device has hardly evolved at all.

Four months after launch we have received only two new utilities; video chat and bbm. Thats it. There have been new twists to something we could already do before, but the only two completely new functions (off a long list of those "coming soon") are those two. That cannot be denied or argued.

The real sad bit is a company that has $3 billion in cash and supposedly made playbook OS evolution a top priority can do no more than they have. 1 dev? Hire more! Lots of devs? They are worthless, weed out the dead weight and hire some talent! Lieing to your customer base about your convictions about this device? Then continue to suffer lagging sales, dropping stock prices until rim goes belly up.

This isnt rocket science.

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[Luan Ngo]

I don't think it's one developer. I understand the frustration over the lack of material updates but what RIM is trying to do is huge. What their teams are trying to do over the course of 4 months since launch is: get native email support (which, according to some speculation, involves rewriting all of BES), develop an Android player from scratch, create a native SDK, in addition to whatever other surprises that they have up their sleeve for October.

This is on top of constantly developing and improving their in-house applications, launch a new set of 7 phones, work on the new QNX phone, create a media centre and strategize about further integration of QNX on other platforms.

Also, keep in mind that RIM developers are not subject to the same constraints as outside developers. Compared to people who just makes apps or develop as a hobby, RIM developers have to worry about two crucial things: security and patents. Considering these two factors help one understand why a bureaucracy exists at that company.

It is rocket science. Outsiders, in whatever situation it may be, always underestimate the difficulty of getting things done - particularly in a large organization. It's not about a lack of talent; it's about overcoming constraints, which are many.

[FourOhFour]

1.0.7.2670 /base/svnrev = 52084
1.0.7.2942 /base/svnrev = 55809
55809-52084 = 3725.

That is one busy developer at ~100 svn revisions per day.

[kb5zht]

Originally Posted by Luan Ngo

I don't think it's one developer.

agreed.

I understand the frustration over the lack of material updates but what RIM is trying to do is huge.

Agreed. Except this should be small potatoes for a company that does what QNX does. Not to sound condescending, but r u aware of all that qnx programs??? A simple tablet like this is a joke compared to their already accomplished feats.

What their teams are trying to do over the course of 4 months since launch is: get native email support (which, according to some speculation, involves rewriting all of BES), develop an Android player from scratch, create a native SDK,

...being done by a company that has slain much larger dragons and funded by a company with more in their unused cash coffers than the gdc of most third world nations...

in addition to whatever other surprises that they have up their sleeve for October.

All we have to go on is rim's record. Nothing in their recent history points to this being a plausible scenario.

This is on top of constantly developing and improving their in-house applications, launch a new set of 7 phones, work on the new QNX phone, create a media centre and strategize about further integration of QNX on other platforms.

these are all independent programs run by different teams... plus rim's two top morons claimed that playbook OS development was suppose to be on top of their list AND the reason new phones werent already out months ago.

Also, keep in mind that RIM developers are not subject to the same constraints as outside developers. Compared to people who just makes apps or develop as a hobby

I dont agree

It is rocket science.

I really dont agree at all with that... and we are talking about qnx, which does know rocket science.

Outsiders, in whatever situation it may be, always underestimate the difficulty of getting things done - particularly in a large organization. It's not about a lack of talent; it's about overcoming constraints, which are many.

While i know this is often used as an excuse for mediocrity, i suggest this for introspection.... at what point does a person realize they have had to make too many excuses over too long of a period of time before they realize they are on the wrong side of the fence?

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[Snipperdo17]

there is no way a company with 17,000 employees or whatever would only have one developer. is this a serious thread? there is no way there is only one guy working on updates....