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    Thumbs up Nielsen results in and Android is top OS in the US.

    Sure it's divided into 4 OEM categories but still impressive. iOS/Apple is no slouch either considering at 34% they are a single manufacturer. I personally am happy to see these two top OS succeed in the US. Hopefully this is what's to come globally. Nice going

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    Nielsen has Android near 52 percent of US smartphone share in Q2, iPhone ekes out gains -- Engadget

    If there was doubt as to whether or not Android would soon become the majority smartphone platform in the US, that's just been erased by Nielsen. Google crossed the tipping point in the second quarter after getting close in the winter, with 51.8 percent of current smartphone users running some variant on the green robot's OS. As we've seen in the past, though, the increase is coming mostly at the expenses of platforms already being squeezed to within an inch of their lives, such as the BlackBerry (8.1 percent) and Windows (4.3 percent combined). Apple still isn't in a position to fret: it kept climbing to 34.3 percent and swung the attention of recent buyers just slightly back in its direction. The real question for many of us might center on what happens in a summer where Samsung has thrown a Galaxy S III-sized curveball at Americans and any new iPhone is likely still a few months away.

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    New numbers from Nielsen illustrate what has long been obvious to anyone who pays attention to technology: old feature phones will soon be a thing of the past. Nielsen reported on Thursday that two-thirds of new mobile phones purchased in the second quarter of 2012 were smartphones. What’s more, Nielsen found that just under 55% of all U.S. mobile subscribers owned smartphones, meaning something that was considered a high-end item just five years ago is now commonplace.
    As far as smartphone operating systems go, Nielsen found that recent adopters over the past quarter unsurprisingly gravitated toward Android, which accounted for 54.6% of all new smartphone purchases, and iOS, which accounted for 36.3% of all new smartphone purchases. RIM’s BlackBerry devices continued to lose market share during the quarter, as BlackBerry OS smartphones accounted for just 4% of all new smartphone purchases — just two quarters ago, RIM’s share among new smartphone buyers sat at 15%.
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    It also showed RIM in the 3rd spot @ 9%. That pleases me because it contradicts the doomsayers about RIM's health.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty_LK View Post
    It also showed RIM in the 3rd spot @ 9%. That pleases me because it contradicts the doomsayers about RIM's health.
    9% and diminishing if you consider that healthy, so be it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD914 View Post
    I personally am happy to see these two top OS succeed in the US.
    It makes you so happy that you needed to spread the word on CrackBerry... Gotcha...
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    Blackberry down in Europe across the board.

    Android rules U.S. and Europe smartphone sales | Mobile - CNET News
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD914 View Post
    9% and diminishing if you consider that healthy, so be it.
    Healthier than WinMo and Windows Phone combined.
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    I guess since I'm a follower (drone), I better rush out and get an Android..........NOT
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    Oh boy, can't wait until we get to choose between two phone manufacturers with similar form factors...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheScionicMan View Post
    It makes you so happy that you needed to spread the word on CrackBerry... Gotcha...
    Android news on the Android forum or did I miss something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty_LK View Post
    Healthier than WinMo and Windows Phone combined.
    healthier than a dead OS and a beginner OS? OK I stand corrected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD914 View Post
    healthier than a dead OS and a beginner OS? OK I stand corrected.
    You consider an almost 2-year old system new? I stand corrected, then.
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    You missed something...
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    RIM and Android devices each meet a different needs and depend on personal preferences. There are some RIM owner who have evolved to the point that they are willing to keep an open mind to the performance, speed and customizability potential of the Android platform. At some point in the near future, assuming that RIM survives, these BB owners who have transitioned to Android might come back. RIM's declining market share is a direct result of blind loyalty to a brand that lost its focus on the UX and overall functionality. Their overall risk aversion and lack of customer focus need to be addressed to ward off the declining market share.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD914 View Post
    Android news on the Android forum or did I miss something?
    Thank you.
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    The problem with Android is that it stands to become a victim of its own success.

    The vast majority of devices aren't upgradable past 2.x, and from then on you see horrible fragmentation. The reliance on Java isn't terribly healthy, either, and it's what prompted RIM to adopt its own new platform.

    I think it's a legitimate question to ask how many developers are actually moving to Android 3.x and up at this point, since those devices still represent a pretty small portion of the market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbuck View Post
    The problem with Android is that it stands to become a victim of its own success.

    The vast majority of devices aren't upgradable past 2.x, and from then on you see horrible fragmentation. The reliance on Java isn't terribly healthy, either, and it's what prompted RIM to adopt its own new platform.

    I think it's a legitimate question to ask how many developers are actually moving to Android 3.x and up at this point, since those devices still represent a pretty small portion of the market.
    TB, people having been sounding the alarm of Android fragmentation for years. Hasn't really curbed the appeal of cheap devices and the huge ecosystem. People care more about apps than the platform.

    I still believe that quite a few of the people on Android have no idea what OS they use, and cannot be bothered by not having ICS, or the difference between Eclair and Gingerbread. Then, you have the trump card of being able to upgrade your device if you really, really want to.

    This whole Android experiment is working out better than even Google could ever have imagined. As a consumer, I hope the Big Two do NOT choke out the others, because multiple OSes help us all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trelawrence View Post
    TB, people having been sounding the alarm of Android fragmentation for years. Hasn't really curbed the appeal of cheap devices and the huge ecosystem. People care more about apps than the platform.

    I still believe that quite a few of the people on Android have no idea what OS they use, and cannot be bothered by not having ICS, or the difference between Eclair and Gingerbread. Then, you have the trump card of being able to upgrade your device if you really, really want to.

    This whole Android experiment is working out better than even Google could ever have imagined. As a consumer, I hope the Big Two do NOT choke out the others, because multiple OSes help us all.
    From a user standpoint, it doesn't mean much. From a DEVELOPER standpoint, it's gradually getting worse. That whole frog-boiling thing...

    If devs have no incentive to upgrade, the app pool will begin to stagnate. Some Android users say it's already happening, and many. At least Apple pretty much forces everyone to march along and update, and there are no manufacturer/carrier customizations to wade through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbuck View Post
    From a user standpoint, it doesn't mean much. From a DEVELOPER standpoint, it's gradually getting worse. That whole frog-boiling thing...

    If devs have no incentive to upgrade, the app pool will begin to stagnate. Some Android users say it's already happening, and many. At least Apple pretty much forces everyone to march along and update, and there are no manufacturer/carrier customizations to wade through.
    Fair point. Can't afford to scare developers.

    I cannot tell you how much it hurts though. I am able to use a few pre-FroYo apps on ICS, but you wonder why said apps were abandoned in the first place.
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    I think having the Nexus on most, if not all networks helps the fragmentation some. I understand why various manufacturers want to put their own spin on Android, however.

    How else will they distinguish themselves? Hardware and OS, can only separate so much

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    Quote Originally Posted by lssanjose View Post
    I think having the Nexus on most, if not all networks helps the fragmentation some. I understand why various manufacturers want to put their own spin on Android, however.

    How else will they distinguish themselves? Hardware and OS, can only separate so much

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    I think that Samsung's current trend of putting out more customizable Android devices (IMHO) may be helping them win the Android battle. It also makes them a less fragmented brand, Touchwiz nothwithstanding. You can't beat the pure Android that GN brings to the table.

    Just unlocked the bootloader and rooted an HTC EVO LTE. Not easy.
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    Personally I like MIUI better than stock android and any of the skins available...

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